Posted on Dec 15, 2013
PO1 Thomas B.
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Ok, I know there are a number of discussions about the proliferation of awards but I have a slightly different question.

What is your opinion on the "Cold War Medal"?

Those of us that served between wars from 1945 through 1991 did not receive any recognition for keeping the Nuclear Peace. Over the years, bills have been introduced in five separate Congress' for the authorization of a Cold War Victory Medal or Cold War Service Medal. To date bills have successfully passed both houses but get stripped out in committee. All medal bills have been vehemently opposed by the U.S. Department of Defense. On February 17, 2011, Senator Olympia Snowe (ME) and on May 24, 2011, Representative Steve Israel (NY-2) reintroduced legislation in the Senate and House, respectively, that the Secretary of Defense concerned may issue a service medal, to be known as the `Cold War Service Medal', to Cold War veterans who meet the criteria.

If the concern is cost of distribution of the Medal, I, for one, would be willing to obtain my own. I just feel that there needs to be more recognition than the cheesy piece of paper that has been authorized. What say you?
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LTC Jason Bartlett
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I say a medal is well deserved and what does it hurt to show recognition for those that served during that time. 
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth - It's a commemorative medal and isn't "officially" supposed to be worn in uniform.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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CPT (Join to see) - not by someone that is active duty, that's what I was told by admin when I was in.
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SFC Leon Amer
SFC Leon Amer
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when looking for t-shirts, hats and such to show my Veteran pride I also see a bunch of commemorative ribbons and medals at MedalsOfAmerica.com, but as a retiree, with 20 years-worth of chest candy and not being a very big fella, if I added a comm. for every event I was part of or had been officially recognized for, the rack would reach up too high and my jump wings would be under the shoulder loop of the jacket LOL ! If I was 6ft 9in instead of 5ft 7in, maybe ... but I do have a Cold War Vet t-shirt
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LTC Jason Bartlett
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Since this post. Still no movement on recognizing Cold War Veterans with a medal:(
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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Talk about torn emotions. &nbsp;I really did not realize the some vets of the Cold War were NOT authorized the NSDM. Since I was on Active Duty from 1966 to 1996 I received TWO NSDM and really do not need a new medal, BUT if there are military members out there who were not recognized for their service, then YES we do need a MEDAL, not just a certificate (which I have) that covers the Cold War. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>So, &nbsp;in light of the above I have to say YES. We really do need a Cold War (or Warrior) Medal. This is needed to make sure those who did NOT receive a NSDM get the recognition they so fully deserve!</div>
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MSgt David Peter
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The two National Service Defense Medals you earned were for being on active duty during the Vietnam War and the Gulf War and are not awarded for Cold War service. I believe that people who served during the Cold War and helped protect the world from nuclear war definitely deserve the recognition of a Cold War Victory Medal.
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SPC John Parmenter
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As a teenage Volunteer, I served in the Ground Observer Corps (most RP Members never heard of the Cold War GOC). We were trained & organized by the U.S. Air Force to scan North America's skies for Soviet air intrusion & strikes. Ground Observer Corps was deactivated in 1958 following deployment of sophisticated radar systems. I was awarded GOC "wings" & other medals & certificates for duty hours served. The Cold War Service Certificate does not recognize Volunteer service. My U.S. Army service (1961-1967) included a tour behind the Iron Curtain in West Berlin. For that unique tour, I was awarded a World War II Army of Occupation Medal (1945-1990) & U.S. Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (14 AUG 1961-01 JUN 1963). In my time, "fruit salad" was worn by combat Veterans -- it never occurred to me that medals should be awarded for non-combat service. I felt fortunate to have my two "been-there buttons" -- Berlin service was unusual in that we were surrounded & confronted hostile forces daily for nearly a half century.
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CDR William Kramer
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PO1 Thomas B.
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Thank you Master Chief. That was the gist of my post. Those of us that served but not during a conflict received nothing. If you look at the numbers... More military people died during this "Peace" time than a number of other declared wars/conflicts. Military service is placing your live on the line. Many unexpected things can happen.
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SSG Jeffrey Spencer
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<span style="color: rgb(55, 64, 78); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12 [login to see] 91406px; line-height: 18px;">I served during these times. We had enough threats during the time I was in, just after Viet Nam. We were put on alert when N. Korea killed 3 American officers, alerted when Russian subs off the coast of California were found monitoring my unit's work. &nbsp;Then Libya, Grenada, Panama. Not to mention the Iron Curtain and threat of MAD.</span><br style="color: rgb(55, 64, 78); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12 [login to see] 91406px; line-height: 18px;"><br style="color: rgb(55, 64, 78); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12 [login to see] 91406px; line-height: 18px;"><span style="color: rgb(55, 64, 78); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12 [login to see] 91406px; line-height: 18px;">I helped develop the equipment and weapons that carried us through today's conflicts. Not even authorized for the NDSM.</span><br style="color: rgb(55, 64, 78); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12 [login to see] 91406px; line-height: 18px;">
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PO3 Paul Barger
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SGT Dale Jackson Sr. - I am a "Red Devil" also Sgt Jackson 1/55th air defense 1983-86. Grenada was going on then. Looking back on this question I also agree on a Cold War Medal. As one of those service members I served in the Navy first from 78-82 I was involved in the Iran Hostage Crisis being stationed in the Persian Gulf. From 83-86 I was a Stinger Missile Team Chief at Ft Polk, 3 years Navy reserves and 3 years Air Force reserves after that. As stated above many events happened in those Cold War years that were not really recognized by anything, Like Check Point Charlie, Korea, Grenada, Libya just to name a few, and yes there were many killed or hurt during those years. The least they could do is recognize the sacrifices of the military personnel, by those Govt officials that did nothing but sit on their butts and make decisions that affected all of us in one way or another. God Bless Our military past, Present and future.
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SGT Steve McFarland
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL I was in from '74 to '77, and all I got was the NDSM.
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Should there be a Cold War Ribbon?
SSG William Patton
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I work with a team on another site that builds profiles of all soldiers who have served, whether they belong to the site or not. One factor I have noticed is the number of medals soldiers receive in the last 20 years compared to those who served in conflicts or the service prior to 1994. I have seen soldiers, especially those in the guard or reserves, who have five rows of ribbons on their profile and some have never been deployed. Compare that to those who served in Vietnam, saw combat, and only have three or four ribbons, one being the Purple Heart. All of us who served in Vietnam fought a hot war in the bigger Cold War, yet we have never been authorized any medal for being sentenials serving against communism, as the Cold War medal signifies. Seeing how all the medals authorized since 1991 seem to have exploded, compared to prior to that point in time, how is expense of one medal significant? My take is the medal shows you have served and performed your duty at the highest level and have been acknowledged for you accomplishment. Those of us who served in Korea and Vietnam damn sure earned a Cold War medal and all the other medals we wear on our chest.
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SP5 Joel O'Brien
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After serving three years in West Berlin, I think of the Army of Occupation medal given to me as my 'Cold War' medal.
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SPC Charles Brown
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My first tour of duty was from 1979 through 1988 in all three components of the Army. Not to my surprise I knew absolutely nothing about any considerations of medals for those of us who served from 1945 through 1991. I too would be willing to purchase my own medal to help the government save a few pennies in sending it to me through the mail. If I were to receive one I would display it with the other three medals that I have been awarded as a result of my military service. However, I seriously doubt that any such medal will be&nbsp;issued for anyone in that era, let alone approved. Dare to dream fellow cold war vets, dare to dream.
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SSG Todd Halverson
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I have served during both the "Cold War" era and the current GWOT. Yes during the "cold War" era we were always on alert, had practice deployment preps and training. But that is all it was.... training. There was a time when Gaddafi came out with a hit list of places he would strike. I was at a location that was near or at the top of the list. We were on alert, but nothing ever happened. Don't really think a ribbon should be given out for that time period. Once you start doing that, there were be many more ribbons that will have to be authorized for periods following the GWOT.
Having served in both times, I would have to say the "GWOT" time has been more stressful and dangerous than serving during the peacetime of the "Cold War". It was not a war, just a name given to a period of time.
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SrA Chris Livingston
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SFC Scotty Anderson - Which led to OPERATION ELDORADO CANYON. The F111's trained at the LIK, I was USAF cops at the LIK. We spent the rest of 86 on the lookout for those who would come to take it on us for being part of the strike effort. That was the closest I got to what could have been a shooting war.
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SSG Todd Halverson
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Thank you for your service. Yes, to every generalization there are the exceptions Beruit was a tragic event and deserves more recognition than they received.
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SSG Todd Halverson
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SSG Jeffrey Spencer - There are 2 types of GWOT medals, expeditionary and service for are current war. NDSM is also for serving in a time of conflict for select periods. The AFEM is awarded to military members who, after July 1, 1958, participated in a U.S. military operation and encountered foreign armed opposition. It can also be awarded to those who were in significant danger of hostile action by foreign armed forces. Those who supported the conflict area from outside were awarded AFSM.
There are also campaign medals that are given out.
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PO3 Paul Barger
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Well I can say that I never received a NSDM, nor did I receive a AFEM but I did receive 2 Navy Expeditionary Medals and 1 Humanitarian Medal for the Iran Hostage crisis. If you look back there have been many exceptions and actions where the military was engage with Hostile forces in one form or another but neither side fired a shot. Medals were hard to come by in years gone by. There could be arguments for either side on this but in the end we are all brothers and sisters that signed on the dotted line and raised our hand and took the oath. I am glad to call myself a Veteran.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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Definitely yes.&nbsp; Particularly in light of those times.&nbsp;&nbsp; We got through the era but the threat of disaster loomed very large.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I sent in for it but never received it. I totally forgot about it until now. Anyone have the info for me? BTW, I think they should. A generation of veterans who served during that Cold War Period deserve recognition.
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SP5 Ed Nolan
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I'm kinda torn on this one, first of all, I was never a big believer in recognition medals, I got a NDSM, Good Conduct, ARCOM...........the usual, it's nice to display these things, gives you a feeling that you accomplished something, but, I have to admit, ALOT of my time in the Army was spent drinking, partying, just hanging around waiting for shit to happen. Yeah, we were on alert alot, we didn't get paid squat, but, we did have alot of fun also. So, if they want to authorize one, I'll be happy for the recognition, but, would I actively campaign for one, don't think I would.
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SGT Darryl Dykes
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I received a Cold War Veteran certificate had to request it when GW was pres
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SGT Darryl Dykes
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CDR, US Army Human Resources Command
Cold War Recognition Program
ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A, Department 480
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Sgt Susan Meier
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SGT Darryl Dykes - Sgt., I served USAF from '82-'91, including 2 tours in the UK, 1 in the Phillipines, and Oman during DS/DS. I was released home from deployment for my Grandmother's funeral. I separated efore the rest of my Unit returned. I don't know what a Cold War Certificate is. Do you know how I can get one? do I just have to ask for it from somewhere? Also, I got no Certificate of Service from my Unit when I separated. Do you know how I can get one of those? Thanks for any assistance.
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MSgt Jim Pollock
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I've given this some deep thought, although I didn't fact-check the basis for this opinion... Please correct me if I'm factually incorrect here.

Folks that deployed for Desert Shield (but not Storm) are eligible for the SWADM despite participating in a campaign where no shot was fired and whose purpose was to face down a potential adversary and deter aggression. Further, the coinciding NDSM eligibility period begins with the start of Desert Shield (not Storm).

Ultimately, the Desert Shield mission failed because Desert Storm became necessary (arguably)--the Cold War mission succeeded when our potential adversary (USSR) dissolved without a shot (at least the non-covert kind).

I'll argue that the Cold War mission was functionally equivilant to Desert Shield; it just lasted longer and involved more personnel.

If we accept that premise, then Cold War vets that deployed to front line defense units should be awarded a campaign medal, and all servicemembers active during that era should be entitled to the NDSM.

Desert Shield is handled in that manner, so the Cold War should be as well. Fair is fair.

Note: I realize there few Desert Shield vets that are not also Desert Storm vets. I do know, however, that vets of both campaigns were awarded TWO SWADMs--so the two campaigns were treated as separate, award-worthy events. vr/ Jim
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SSG Harper Peterson
SSG Harper Peterson
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Desert Shield didn’t fail! It was Phase 1, neutralize communications, control the air, and soften (eliminate) targets are needed.

The fact that you say ‘fair is fair,’ disgusts me and causes me to question your judgement as a Staff NCO. You sound like a PFC! I am a Cold War vet, and don’t want a CW ribbon or medal. Cold War wasn’t a campaign. I have a headache just thinking about this. Ridiculous!
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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Absolutely! To recognize those that served during that time.
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
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Thank you, Sir. Blessings.
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