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With the recent amount of stolen valor it is hard to keep up with all the different threads being posted here on RallyPoint. From this point forward if you have a stolen valor question, comment, and or post, then add it here. The posts that currently exist will stay, as we don't want to lose the already existing discussion content. If you have started a stolen valor post prior to this and wish to have it merged to this one then feel free to let me know and I will merge that for you. The initial post will be gone but the discussion content will be merged to this posting.
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I am assuming he was not a member of Rally Point. We get verified here. But in many states we have the stolen valor act. Normally basically if know the walk or talk they are good. But have found those who blow air or bump up qaulificatons seem to be not on the game. Don't get me wrong nothing wrong for listing them here for experience seeking proffesionals. Me I don't care about them. I just want to be know that I served honorbale. I really like just being known as a vet and rarely discuss my assignments or qualifications to non veterans. They don't understand it all anyways. I don't wear a uniform anymore so have nothing to prove. Just like give advice off past experiences, when I can.
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MSG (Join to see)
Badges are worn by which category they fall under. Class 1-5 and he must be confused with the old Army Service Alpha uniform as to how its worn.
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SGT Robert Cook
While the picture is not good enough for me to make out all of his ribbons, it does appear that the top two rows are in the correct order. But only if you like BACKWARDS. Somebody needs to pull his PX privelidges.
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PFC Aaron Knapp
This was never an issue back in the day. This is a more recent disease which leads me to wonder what's changed and why?
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MSG (Join to see)
This is not a new trend, since militaries began using uniforms and awards that glorified their service people have stolen that valor to boost their egos or gain access to offices and groups through false association. The only difference is that this day in age several types of media can be shared in an instance to a large audience, so it seems more prevalent.
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My favorite thing happened last night: some dude hit on me with his fake, "I served my country" story. I made my eyes wide, leaned forward and begged for him to tell me the whole story. He drove a tank *into* Kuwait right at the start of the conflict. Wow, he did't look Iraqi...LOL! He finished his story (the ending involved bad-mouthing the VA) and I turned to my friend and said, "this story is unbelievable; [3 second pause] meaning that there is very little here that even has the possibility of being remotely true." Sometimes there are advantages to being able to be a veteran in disguise.
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PO1 John Meyer, CPC
CPT Carrie P. ... that's like the old saying that says the more complex you try to make a lie, the easier it is for others to see that you're lying.
K.I.S.S. if you're going to lie.
K.I.S.S. if you're going to lie.
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CW4 Larry Curtis
CPT (Join to see) Thank you...do you realize how painful it is to have your coffee escape through your nose and onto your computer monitor and keyboard while trying to suppress hilarious laughter? Your story is great and I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation. I really do need to learn how to abstain from taking a sip of coffee, or any other beverage for that matter, until I am between stories...jeeesh...
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
First General Order, I would have no clue. I remember there are 11 and I used to have to recite them at guard mount. If someone asked me, I'd say the only one I remember. I walk my post from flank to flank and take no sh*t off any rank. LOL Well, one just came to me, Summon the Corporal of the Guard for a disturbance or something like that.
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PO2 Kayla Modschiedler
I agree ma'am, I like being a female veteran the phonies let their guard down.
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Regarding the guy with a "Homeless Vet", I have a Purple Heart license plate and it's amazing how many of them turn away and won't face my car. That spells volumes in my book.
If they don't turn away, I invite them to come home with me and do a few chores. I will give them something to eat, a few dollars, and the phone number of the local VA Service Rep. Of course during the ride home I ask some probing questions that prove to me their legitimacy. If they fail the test, then I drop them off at the closest intersection with a warning that they take the "Vet" off their sign, tell them I am retired from Law Enforcement, and explain the vagrancy/panhandling law.
Now you see why my wife won't let me out much....... LOL.
If they don't turn away, I invite them to come home with me and do a few chores. I will give them something to eat, a few dollars, and the phone number of the local VA Service Rep. Of course during the ride home I ask some probing questions that prove to me their legitimacy. If they fail the test, then I drop them off at the closest intersection with a warning that they take the "Vet" off their sign, tell them I am retired from Law Enforcement, and explain the vagrancy/panhandling law.
Now you see why my wife won't let me out much....... LOL.
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MSG Wade Huffman
I like how you handle those situations Sir! I think your wife should let you out more often!! (but you probably shouldn't tell her I said that! LOL!)
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Suspended Profile
Your approach is fair, kind, gentle, and absolutely outstanding!!!
Actual vets make a friend, get a little work, food, and some help.
Actual vets make a friend, get a little work, food, and some help.
I find it entertaining. Senior Chief Don Shipley has a lot of videos where he calls out fake SEALs. He does his research and records his phone conversations. He gives them a chance to drop the act and when they don't he goes public and shames them.
I was Air Force Intel. Last year I was accused of stolen valor on another forum I used to enjoy posting on. I've been in Afghanistan for the past 3 years as a contractor supporting Marine battalions and Army brigades. I mentioned Afghanistan, talk about it, answer questions. In private, another Veteran (Army Infantryman) called me out because an Air Force Intel weenie couldn't be experiencing the grunt life. According to him I must have pulled my info from somewhere other than personal experiences. A year living with Marines on deployment, I have an all new respect for the USMC. Best and worst year of my life. Wag bags, piss tubes and wild dogs, I've never been so humbled in my life. Well, it took me months to pull myself out of depression to respond to the guy. I felt like I was on trial and explained every little thing he called me out on. If it was a civilian I would have told him to Frug-off. Someone I looked up to as a fellow Veteran calling me out was heart breaking.
I was Air Force Intel. Last year I was accused of stolen valor on another forum I used to enjoy posting on. I've been in Afghanistan for the past 3 years as a contractor supporting Marine battalions and Army brigades. I mentioned Afghanistan, talk about it, answer questions. In private, another Veteran (Army Infantryman) called me out because an Air Force Intel weenie couldn't be experiencing the grunt life. According to him I must have pulled my info from somewhere other than personal experiences. A year living with Marines on deployment, I have an all new respect for the USMC. Best and worst year of my life. Wag bags, piss tubes and wild dogs, I've never been so humbled in my life. Well, it took me months to pull myself out of depression to respond to the guy. I felt like I was on trial and explained every little thing he called me out on. If it was a civilian I would have told him to Frug-off. Someone I looked up to as a fellow Veteran calling me out was heart breaking.
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SGT Michael Glenn
Its been 23 years since I was last active duty, I cant remember the nomenclature of many items I worked with on a daily basis as a unit armorer, or a grunt, or a mech puke. I cant remember half the people I served with or even met while on active duty. but when I look at my class A's I know I can tell you what each award was for and what it meant to me and can have you read my dd-214 as I go through them to check items off. If Im ever in a convo with anyone here and cant remember what an su36P is dont send red flags up on me....or Ill throw my P38 at you !!! and try to toss an ANPVS7 at you if I can still lift the damn thing!!
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SSgt B Mac
CPL Wilson, thank you for your story. I agree it is a shame that our service is put to question, it's heartbreaking and offensive. You handled the situation well. Unfortunately, since some selfish individuals have taken great lengths to pretend to have worn our boots, false accusations will still occur. At an individual level, it can hurt just as much as having our own valor stripped from us. A point that was brought up earlier, takeaway from this is to make sure of facts before accusing. Our unique experiences are what make us who we are. Some experiences were painful enough living through them. It's just more salt on the wounds for someone to say it didn't happen. CPL Wilson, thank you again for sharing your story.
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If someone were to call me on my service/accomplishments, I would defend them intially. However, at some point, I have better things to do than to justify my career/experiences to anyone. To put this into context, I dont have a CIB (much less 3 of them), no Medals of Honor, no tabs, nor any special badges. Just a regular old "leg" who has done his best (and occasionally screwed it up) and keeps muddling through.
Hooah to all those who have earned the high speed badges and decorations. I tip my hat to you.
Hooah to all those who have earned the high speed badges and decorations. I tip my hat to you.
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SGT Michael Glenn
I thought Hooah was spelled Hoooooooooooooofuc****Raaaaaaaahhhhhhh...... but who am I to disagree with Hooah......
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LTC (Join to see)
Never been deployed (retired just before 9/11 and wanted to go) but I'm proud of my service; I proudly salute those who did face harms way, regardless of rank!
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SGT Daniel Rocco Ames
No judgement from me, Sir. Then again I catch flak from time to time for my POG CAB. But most of the time it's from a "Leg", and us former paratroopers don't have time for that.
(Just giving you flak, Sir, with all due respect)
That being said, you have done much more time than I, as noted by your rank. Badges or tabs or not, you have my respect, Sir, always.
(Just giving you flak, Sir, with all due respect)
That being said, you have done much more time than I, as noted by your rank. Badges or tabs or not, you have my respect, Sir, always.
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Everyone is missing the biggest dead give away. There's not a single pen in his pen pockets. FAKE!!!!
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SFC Thomas Chappell
I've seen worse from my real soldiers unfortunately but never from a fellow "SFC." Even if he was a SFC and just started wearing ACUs common sense says you would not have the collar up like that, or the sleeves tightened that way, or be running around with dirt on the sleaves.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Ya, what's up with these fools that wear their cover indoors? You go to the VA and they are everywhere!
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Just showed this to my friend and he said to send this guy on a one man liaison mission to chat with ISIS leaders in Iraq. Is that too harsh?
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CPT Zachary Brooks
Look at how many medals he has! He would be great to go there, he must have tons of experience in those kinds of situations!
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SFC (Join to see)
Oh, I agree. Maybe then he would understand the meaning of service to the nation and the brothers in arms.
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Maybe its just me- but I cant remember the last time I ever seen a CSM wear sun glasses on their head like that in uniform especially at the moment of any picture being taken.
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SGT (Join to see)
He was the same guy with the SGM rank his beret right? That would have been
a giveaway for me.
a giveaway for me.
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SPC (Join to see)
I can't remember any troop posing like that or crossing the arms in front of the body don't we all get the natural urge of hands behind the body in an at ease or parade rest type of urge?
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LCpl Stephen Tombs
Even at the end of my service, arms crossed in front was the most natural position for me. When you're a PVT or PFC, I can understand the constant parade rest mindset, but as the senior Lance I only saw my SNCOs once or twice a month, and my Sgt once a week. The only person I encountered on a normal basis who was a higher rank than me was my Corporal, who I mainly saw when we were both in the highly informal smoke pit. So in a leadership position, especially if you really were up at E9, I could easily see the arms crossed being your default. It's a more dominant posture and implies that your word is law so far as the individual being addressed is concerned.
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Why, oh, why do I never get to see these dumbasses in person....? I would LOVE to expose them.....
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
Paul, I'm with you Brother. Would love to see this guy in person. Honestly though, he wouldn't get it! My terp earned his creds way more than this wannabe Twat!
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PFC (Join to see)
me too. saw a soldier in Walmart yesterday, boots bloused, face shaved, and wearing a black t-shirt that said go lsu. get it together man.
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You can fake the uniform... you can not fake the character
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SPC John Gillaspie
amen to that!!!!!! a SGM would never wear his glasses on his head first off!!!!!!
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PO3 Larry William Green Jr.
This is so true! The Military Bearing is not just put on! It I s|ingrained into us!
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