Posted on Jan 24, 2017
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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RP Members and Connections I found this picture very interesting and thought I would create some discussion. What are some of the things we can actually do without Government Permission?

Serve our Country in the Military? (Need permission, right?)

Is our Government too involved in our Freedoms and Rights?

Taking Drugs for me meant prescription drugs!

Your thoughts & comments are welcome.
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Anita Nowocin
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs I am not aware that we need to have permission to cross a road or collect rain water. Many of the other acts legally require a license or ID to do legally with certain restriction.
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SFC Wayne Hollins
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The ability to collect rainwater is regulated in some states. Oregon comes to mind, but there are others!
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Wanda Afualo-Carey
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Regulated in CO - http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2016a/csl.nsf/billcontainers/E38A8DB3F0B [login to see] F240063F8A2/$FILE/1005_enr.pdf
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I do not need government permission to live. I do that freely everyday.
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SFC Wayne Hollins
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You have to get government permission to do many of the things you do while living. Drive a car, build a house or many other structures, go fishing, hunting. To name just a few! You are free to pay taxes!
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SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz
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Hmmm... I don't need the government permission to collect comic books, graphic novels and Funko pops, so I'm free.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Collecting rainwater?
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According to one web site that tracks this phenomenon, "Several notes of caution: in some cases there may be good reasons for prohibiting rain water harvesting by individuals. This may not have anything to do with “government ownership of rain”, and everything to do with public safety. If local authorities prohibit rain barrels, there may be a darn good reason. Check with local health districts regarding this issue before you set up rain barrels. You have been advised." This site has links to every state with information about the legal standing to collect rainwater: http://www.enlight-inc.com/blog/?p=1036
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Capt Seid Waddell
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COL (Join to see), I do recall a story a while back about a farmer being sued by the government for building a farm pond.

"According to congressional budget testimony, waters of the United States would give the EPA authority over streams on private property even when the water beds have been dry, in some cases, for hundreds of years."

http://www.independentsentinel.com/epa-fines-wyoming-man-16-million-for-building-a-pond-on-his-property/
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson
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Many states it's illegal and others are restrictive to the point of making it impossible.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson, I don't see how that is Constitutional.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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Collecting rainwater only against law in Oregon, Washington state.. anybody know any others?
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson
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SSgt Boyd Herrst - There are states where you can't even collect it in rain barrels, before it even touches the ground. I can understand issues with diverting water. Making it illegal to collect falling from the sky is not understandable. As long as it's done properly. i.e. not letting mosquito's breed in it and using it for outdoor purposes. Even collected rainwater can be dangerous to drink for humans, if not handled properly.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson - I suppose the nanny staters
Think some homeless person would help themself to s'ones rain barrel and get sick,
And since that person trespassed on private property.. the government (actually the taxpayers) would be liable for that person's care and they don't want that responsibility..,
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SP5 Robert Ruck
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I think Maryland passed that law too.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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SP5 Robert Ruck - yes, get on the p.c. Train !
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Seems to me the list conflates "getting permission" with "meeting requirements for". As an example, I can get married in my church ... without meeting anyone's requirements but the pastor's. To have that marriage recognized for certain government purposes (Social Security benefits for the spouse), there are some additional hoops to jump through. None of those, however, are getting "permission to marry". In most cases, you can drive a car all you wish on your own land ... with no registration and no license ... but driving on public roads is something else again. If one wants to argue that the government is overly intrusive on some issues, I might buy the argument ... but that one must seek "permission" from the government for most of the things in the list in the original post is a bit misleading ... IMV.
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SFC Wayne Hollins
SFC Wayne Hollins
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No, you can buy the permission from the government to do just about anything you want to do! Getting permission, meeting requirements is the same thing said in a different way!
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CPO Rob Carleen
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Procreate.
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SSG Waldo Yamada
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Actually you are being on your own accord yet still representing the Armed Forces whether for or against it. When you said the oath of enlistment. You're part of the bandwagon that support and defend the constitution.

We can even go deeper as to a sense of why someone decided to join the service.

It can be dissected in many ways about the circumstances that lead to enlisting, but once you leave the service you are no longer under orders but now left with a missing piece of the heart that you had whole while in service, some called it the band of brothers, other's camaraderie, to a more sinister connotation is leaving with a guilt heart or having a death wish that the reaper was scared of you for. Either way someone or anyone who is part of the military will always call you family no matter what, and if you're not really sociable, they understand too.

Still the moral compass still remains for you to continue to plow through society ever watching and supporting the local peace officers now. Not as a first-responder's duty but more as a secondary supporter for them. Referring to those who are still within fighting weight.

WWII, 'Nam', Gulf War era.

I was told by another 'Nam' veteran with a heart felt expression that he hopes his fellow brothers from his era will be taken care of by the current Gulf War Era vets. It didn't dawn on me till I left when I realized that I needed to help the older war vets, these guys are still legends. The harsh environment of a jungle is a lot worse than an open desert field, or an urban environment at that, because disguises back then were more nifty and if you're treading in a highly vegetated field, it's like traversing in a smoke screen, only that it's a natural one. Also to mention the punji sticks.

Still, knowing that you're under oath means that if you end up on the news. Most likely you will be called to rest as a hero or someone who needed help, but no one stood up and helped the soldier in need.
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Kathlean Keesler
Kathlean Keesler
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Wow - thanks
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Sgt Wayne Wood
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Technically, gov't needs OUR permission... now if we would stop re-electing the tyrants who believe WE serve THEM!
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GySgt Craig Averill
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In REALITY you do NOT need to check with the U.S. Government for permission to do anything. Per the U.S. Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 Clauses 1 thru 18, the Centralized Government has NO DOMESTIC AUTHORITY, they were created BY THE PEOPLE to be a collective voice and a collective force for Foreign Issues only.

In other words the EPA, BLM, Dept of Education, Dept of Labor and most other agencies and departments are Illegally in existence.

Each state is Sovereign as each state is the same as a country and has their own government, their own constitutions and their own declaration of Rights. Over the years, the centralized Government has been constantly overstepping their DELEGATED and LIMITED AUTHORITIES.

How? You may ask, because the PEOPLE have grown very ignorant of their God Given RIGHTS and of the Constitutions.

While on ACTIVE DUTY you serve under the UCMJ and for the most part have given up your Constitutional Rights, so while serving, you need permission to do many things that as a civilian you would not.

If the Centralized Government stayed within the parameters set by the Constitution, we could live our entire lives with little or no contact with the Federal Government.
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