Posted on Mar 3, 2017
SPC Cameron Hale
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So recently I've been flagged for multiple Failures To Report, as a result UCMJ is pending. I have accepted the consequences of my actions and am prepared to face them. I just wanted to know the extent of the article seeing as I'm still in AIT and haven't reported to my first unit yet. (No pun intended between the Failure to report and me not reporting to my unit. The FTR's are to formation) Help?
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Cpl Wally Gervas
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HEY, Wake up..... YOU'RE IN THE ARMY NOW.
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SGT Patrick Reno
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Really, your still in AIT and your already getting an Article 15. What you really need to be worried about is pulling your head out of your ass. I hope you can learn from this and turn your self around.
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SPC Training Room Nco
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While I understand the desire for being the hard-nosed NCO, the kid reached out for guidance. He already knows he messed up. Telling him to get his head out of his ass isn't going to help here. The Article 15 will pull his head from his ass, or it will lead to him being separated. This is the time to be a leader, not a disciplinarian.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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Every other post has address most of your problems. You're not on the block anymore. You're in the real more adult world where things will catch up with you very fast. Grow up lad, get your head out of your third point of contact and listen. Do what you're told, when you're told and how you're told and you will do ok. If you don't like taking orders then you're in the wrong place.
Get through your first enlistment then step back and evaluate if you want to stay or go. Just remember your military record will stay with you through your entire life. Stay clean now and you got it made.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Hooah Sergeant Major.
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COL Charles Williams
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SPC Cameron Hale
1. Summarized. Any company grade commander may administer this type of Article 15. Soldiers who are read a summarized Article 15 are not entitled to consult with a defense attorney. They may, turn down the summarized Article 15 and demand trial by court-martial; but, normally this is not a good idea! The maximum punishment authorized at a summarized Article 15 is any combination of:

a. extra duty for 14 days
b. restriction for 14 days
c. oral reprimand or admonition

2. Company Grade. Any company grade commander may administer this type of Article 15. The maximum punishment authorized at a company grade Article 15 is any combination of:

a. extra duty for 14 days
b. restriction for 14 days
c. oral reprimand or admonition
d. forfeiture of seven days base pay
e. reduction in rank of one grade (E-4 & below only)

3. Field Grade. A commander in the rank of major or above may administer this type of Article 15. The maximum punishment authorized at a field grade Article 15 is:

a. extra duty for 45 days
b. restriction for 60 days (maximum of 45 days if combined with extra duty)
c. oral reprimand or admonition
d. forfeiture of one-half base pay per month for two months
e. reduction in rank to E-1 (E-4 and below) or reduction in rank of one grade (E-5 & E-6 only)
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Thank you sir.
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PO3 Christopher Jonah Nelson
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This is something you seriously need to correct before you finish training. Our command needed us to have our RADAR and CTO facilities open at 0700, but that meant that we had to be there early enough to check all of the equipment, receive NOTAMS from our ARTCC, take the daily briefing from our regional FAA representative...and none of that was inconsequential. We had to check the calibration of every RFC scope, every Approach scope, every Departure scope, we had to check the operability of every frequency (we had 15 frequencies and 12 interfacility communications channels) in both UHF and VHF as well as performing our test on GUARD frequency (which we have a 5 minute window to do or else it's a federal offense). The consequences of not getting our checklist done were up to an including causing the death of an aircrew through negligence, which is a class 2 felony even if you don't consider the fact that you just caused 4 pilots/navigators and 3-6 enlisted support personnel to die. We had to be there in time to do all of that *before* opening our facility and accepting our airspace.

When you get in to your command, you won't have exactly the same requirements, but you have to take your responsibilities seriously just as if you've got the same level of responsibility that we did. You may not know why you're being told to do something or how important it is when you do it, but it may be something so deadly important that your unit is literally counting on you to safeguard their lives. Everything you do must be with the outlook that you're potentially killing someone. Even if you're just swabbing the deck; FOD on the surface of a flight deck kills people, and the people who didn't sweep or clean properly *can kill someone*.
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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correct your failures so that it doesn't follow up in the regular army, we all make mistakes but in the end its how we overcome them, good luck young man
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CPL Anthony Slaughter
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I'm glad to see that you're trying to seek some kind of help for this situation, however where you seem to be solely concerned with the possible punishment, the subject of this question should have been "how can I square myself away so that I don't end up in this kind of situation again?".

I see in the comments that you have been told about alarm clocks, and utilizing the battle buddy system, but in the end it all comes down to you personally, and since you are in AIT, as someone who has apparently graduated from BCT, you should already know how to be on time. My biggest suggestion is that you pull your head out of your 4th point of contact, because I promise you that things like this won't be tolerated at your first duty station.

As for the extent of the punishment, I do not believe that a Company Grade Article 15 will follow you to your first duty station, but repeated incidents of the same thing could quickly turn into Field Grade, and that definitely will follow you. And with all Article 15's, you will receive loss of rank/pay, and Extra Duty.

When I was in the 82nd, Soldiers who didn't know how to show up on time were often given creative punishments as well, such as having to carry around an alarm clock in their cargo pocket, having to show up an hour before any formation and checking in with the Company CQ desk, or anything else their PSG decided.
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1SG Brian Adams
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http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/military_justice/about-article-15.shtml

Here's the deal PV2, Sounds as though an O-3, CPT wil be handling this Article 15. See attached hyperlink. There are numerous online places you can go to gain info on "Maximum" punishment etc...perhaps you just wanted an opinion. If you really want to be a Soldier in this Army, then put your mind to it and be the best damn Army Soldier in your AIT and make a career out of it....
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SPC Cameron Hale Looking at the responses, you have received excellent advice. Buy two more alarm clocks. In the civilian world, being late for work will end up with you eventually being fired. You acknowledge your mistake, now fix it. Let us know when you graduate AIT.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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I will definitely let you know Sergeant. :)
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I actually used to have two alarm clocks, i put one where I could reach it a 2nd one out of my reach so I had to get out of bed to turn it off. What Sgt Hallock said is good advise and it helped Me, I was never late. That did save Me more than once.
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SGT Randall Smith
SGT Randall Smith
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I was wondering why he would need an alarm clock. Then I remembered that they don't live in bays now but rooms. In a bay with 39 others the lights were turned on and someone yelled to get moving.
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Sgt Field Radio Operator
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SGT Randall Smith - Absolutely, and if you did not immediately jump out of the rack, you were offered assistance.
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SFC William H.
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There is a lot of good help here.......you need to take advantage of it.......I take it you made it through BCT with no FTR's. Someone was helping you make formation on time? AIT is not basic. You are expected to show more responsibility as the rules are lessened. At Leavenworth,( I presume from your previous post your duty station) you will even have more freedoms......what are you going to do then? You can get through this but you are going to want to have to.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Hooah Sergeant tbh the FTR's really started happening this last month after being classed back and out of training due to failure in a subject. I'm going to take this as a motivational learning step and proceed on to Leavenworth upon graduation.
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