Posted on Dec 30, 2013
Capt Current Operations Officer (S 3)
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I just came across this article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/

It talks about how everything they do is contracted out and the officers each have a salary of 100k - 300k. It also talks about how out of all the funds that are donated only ~10% reach the wounded warriors.

This really bothers me because I know my wife and I have done fundraisers and donated to the WWP. Does this affect how you will donate? or where you will donate? Do you actually research the non-profits that you donate to?

I know I dont, but this will definitely make me start.
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Capt Current Operations Officer (S 3)
I just came across this article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/

It talks about how everything they do is contracted out and the officers each have a salary of 100k - 300k. It also talks about how out of all the funds that are donated only ~10% reach the wounded warriors.

This really bothers me because I know my wife and I have done fundraisers and donated to the WWP. Does this affect how you will donate? or where you will donate? Do you actually research the non-profits that you donate to?

I know I dont, but this will definitely make me start.
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SFC Stephen King
Although I do not condone the behavior, from a business (non-profit) I do understand.
SPC Charles Slininger
I am always skeptical of "big name" non-profits due to the sheer marketing that goes behind these efforts and how they have a hard time disclosing their profit/loss margins clearly. I've found more effectiveness on the local level, such as in Minnesota with the Minnesota Military Appreciation Fund (http://www.thankmntroops.org/). I actually have been a beneficiary of this fund as I received a gift from them when I was struggling early on post-college and barely employed. It wasn't a lot as they were very new then as well, but it helped greatly then and I was extremely thankful.

Otherwise my point would be to research any foundation first before putting anything to them. There are many organizations and "non-profits" out there ready to exploit the sacrifices that soldiers, veterans and their/our families have made to serve this country. Sad to say, but always true.
SGT Robert R.
SGT Robert R.
>1 y
I would encourage you to look into the VFW and/or American Legion, if you so qualify SPC Slininger. I am not a member of the AL, but I am a member of my local VFW post. The commrarderie that spans across the generations and the help and support we are to each other and some other non-profits locally, while having such a great lobbying presence at the state and national level make this organization a perfect fit for me.
SPC Charles Slininger
SPC Charles Slininger
>1 y
I agree that both are solid organizations. I was a local member of both previously, however I have not been active for a few years. I expect to rejoin in the future.
SGT Craig Northacker
Hi folks. I was invited to their initial $ 1,000 a plate dinner in NYC. Mr Melia was the original veteran who started it, and he had an excellent program. The gents who came to work with him to set it up came from a nonprofit that was investigated by the NYS Attorney General, and for awhile there was a reference to that on their website.

The 2012 Form 990 on their website showed a $ 49 million profit, with $ 61 million in cash and short term investments and very little in payables. The explosion of cash does not relate to the levels of support maintained elsewhere in the return.

Do the math, and follow the money. They have an incredible fund-raising machine. They also decided within the past year to not fund any veterans prior to 9/11.

I started Vets-Help.org 7 plus years ago, and I have been the primary funder because I did not want to hear about how I spent the money developing our programs. I also had to learn who was real and who was not inside our government, and we have positioned ourselves extremely well now with projects designed to self fund us as we move along. No salaries, either. Feel free to check us out as well, and thank you folks for all the work you do to help our vets. We have one caveat - we help the entire family.
SPC David S.
Edited >1 y ago
Some view the WWP as a PR juggernaut that squanders donations on an extravagant corporate identity and lifestyle. However the WWP does provide services to vets in a number of ways so they say. I also know that a friend of my father's, COL White, worked with them until he passed away. This guy devoted his entire life to the military community either by serving or helping those who did serve. So I believe there are good people behind the curtain. Unfortunately I have heard both good and bad. As they are as big as they are I only know of one person that was assisted with housing. I dive with a lot of busted up guys with SUDS and no one, but this could be due to the fact that the WWP helps fund other non-profits.
CPO Culinary Specialist
CPO (Join to see)
>1 y
I have seen a strong shift to spinal cord support, both in housing and in community rehabilitation programs. One thing many do not realize is how many people are coming home and hitting the VA system. The budget cuts from Congress have made equipment and durable goods difficult for many and housing and housing accessibility issues are needed right away, they can not wait. WWP has been heavily involved in these programs. Also the newer directions for helping with PTSD such as residential programs that have housing, then train in life skills and other skills as needed. It is like all things, to find out what is going on, folks have to get involved. The more people get involved and help, the further the money goes. Help is not just a donation, the best thing we can do is be there for our fellow Veterans. Just an opinion. ;)
SSG General Services Technician And State Vehicle Inspector
I will never donate to them for several different reasons but primarily is they support anti-freedom policies. I used to like them until they started in on the political garbage.
SGM Chuck Harris
SGM Chuck Harris
9 y
What do you mean, "anti-freedom policies?"
SGT Dillon Townsel
Edited >1 y ago
If you're looking to research charitable organizations, here's a great resource.
I think a lot of people are surprised by the amount of overhead involved in some of these "altruistic" organizations. You can also find fun facts such as the Susan G. Komen CEO taking home $684,717 in 2012. We've all worked hard for our money, so it makes sense to know how you're donating it.
Capt Current Operations Officer (S 3)
Capt (Join to see)
>1 y
Sgt Townsel,

Thank  you for that site. So then really, people are upset about the amount of money the CEO and officers make. According to that site 95% of all the money goes to program expenses, although that is kind of vague, it does provide a little more faith in the organization. Even thought the CEO is making 311,538 a year which it says is .36% of their expenses. 
LTC Jason Strickland
LTC Jason Strickland
>1 y
Another excellent site is http://www.guidestar.org.  They serve as a watchdog to nonprofits to ensure financial transparency.
Lt Col Joe Lewis
Lt Col Joe Lewis
>1 y
Salaries can be divided into multiple categories. If a CEO spends 30% of their time administering the program to the participant, 30% of their salary can go into the column of program expense rather than management. This is legal and a standard practice, but it is something to know when you see how much goes to help the participants. Page 10 of the Form 990 (tax return) shows the breakout of expenses into Program, Management, and Fundraising.
MAJ Senior Observer   Controller/Trainer
Please do not take this article, or anything else that comes from Veteran's Today seriously. This IS NOT a reputable web site!
SGT Mike Mangual
First they have separated and segregated us they will not help veterans of past wars not that I need them but if you are not from 2001 then you do exist to them and no way this supposed to be about the troops not someone making big buck to run a charity
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
9 y
wow! Did not know that. Thanks for the info.
SGT William Howell
I think that the money spent could be better use with other organizations that get more money to vets. Wounded Warrior is going to come crashing down at some point and other non-profits that help are going to receive some of the fallout.
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
Based on what I've read (and I'll admit it's not extensive, but enough) and heard from fellow vets locally, it sounds like Wounded Warrior has gone the way of a lot of charities where the amount reaching the target audience is not in line with the donations they are pulling in. IMHO, anything below 50% going to the cause needs to be examined. If you're below 50% then that sounds like a lot of overhead, potentially in real estate, salaries and product.

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