Posted on Oct 13, 2016
Bill Maher gets into a debate with Charlie Rose on why Islam is more Violent than Christianity
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Thanks SSgt (Join to see). Since somebody used a verse out of context - typical tactic - I am posting the entire parable that Jesus is recorded in Luke 19 when he was talking about money as he frequently did.
Luke 11-27 NASB "While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. So He said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return. And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, ‘Do business with this until I come back.’ But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ When he returned, after receiving the kingdom, he ordered that these slaves, to whom he had given the money, be called to him so that he might know what business they had done. The first appeared, saying, ‘Master, your mina has made ten minas more.’ And he said to him, ‘Well done, good slave, because you have been faithful in a very little thing, you are to be in authority over ten cities.’ The second came, saying, ‘Your mina, master, has made five minas.’ And he said to him also, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’ Another came, saying, ‘Master, here is your mina, which I kept put away in a handkerchief; for I was afraid of you, because you are an exacting man; you take up what you did not lay down and reap what you did not sow.’ He *said to him, ‘By your own words I will judge you, you worthless slave. Did you know that I am an exacting man, taking up what I did not lay down and reaping what I did not sow? Then why did you not put my money in the bank, and having come, I would have collected it with interest?’ Then he said to the bystanders, ‘Take the mina away from him and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’ And they said to him, ‘Master, he has ten minas already.’ I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.”
Like many of Jesus' parables this one is focused on the end of the age and the judgement of God.
I have seen God raise the dead in my arms for His purposes and I am aware of HIM destroying the lives of people who deliberately went against his purposes even unknowingly.
God knows exactly when, where and how each of us will be born and when, where and how each will die. God directed people to kill in the old testament. The god of Islam directs them to kill now and many do so in barbaric ways because their instructions are in 6th century Arabic.
The true God is patient in general and swift when necessary. I fought God and HIS messengers for almost 31 years and thankfully He allowed me to live long enough to recognize my need for relationship with HIM.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Christopher Mueller Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT (Join to see) SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT Forrest Stewart SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert Hawks SGT Robert George SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM
Luke 11-27 NASB "While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. So He said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return. And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, ‘Do business with this until I come back.’ But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ When he returned, after receiving the kingdom, he ordered that these slaves, to whom he had given the money, be called to him so that he might know what business they had done. The first appeared, saying, ‘Master, your mina has made ten minas more.’ And he said to him, ‘Well done, good slave, because you have been faithful in a very little thing, you are to be in authority over ten cities.’ The second came, saying, ‘Your mina, master, has made five minas.’ And he said to him also, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’ Another came, saying, ‘Master, here is your mina, which I kept put away in a handkerchief; for I was afraid of you, because you are an exacting man; you take up what you did not lay down and reap what you did not sow.’ He *said to him, ‘By your own words I will judge you, you worthless slave. Did you know that I am an exacting man, taking up what I did not lay down and reaping what I did not sow? Then why did you not put my money in the bank, and having come, I would have collected it with interest?’ Then he said to the bystanders, ‘Take the mina away from him and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’ And they said to him, ‘Master, he has ten minas already.’ I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.”
Like many of Jesus' parables this one is focused on the end of the age and the judgement of God.
I have seen God raise the dead in my arms for His purposes and I am aware of HIM destroying the lives of people who deliberately went against his purposes even unknowingly.
God knows exactly when, where and how each of us will be born and when, where and how each will die. God directed people to kill in the old testament. The god of Islam directs them to kill now and many do so in barbaric ways because their instructions are in 6th century Arabic.
The true God is patient in general and swift when necessary. I fought God and HIS messengers for almost 31 years and thankfully He allowed me to live long enough to recognize my need for relationship with HIM.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Christopher Mueller Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT (Join to see) SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT Forrest Stewart SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert Hawks SGT Robert George SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM
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Good video, but it's very one sided. He wants to lump all Muslims as crazy, blood thirsty, madmen, but makes sure to male it known that Christians are not. He said the Bible is not violent, but the Koran is. On every page in fact. He wants to tell about it's the religion that fuels the anger that causes them to want to do things that are violent in nature in regards to justice. I would like Bill to talk to the Latinos who were subjected to conversion in central and south America. Ask what religion were they following before the land was "discovered". Ohh that's right. they're dead. Some killed for not converting. So would Bil please explain that one? Native Americans had their own belief system, and it was seen as "Gods work" to convert them, to take barbarians and make them "civilized". But Christianity isn't violent. We go to war, and oin ACOGS was a hidden message from the bible. We use imagery of the Crusades to make them less human. I was not in the Stan over my religion, or their religion, I was there to do a job that my country wanted done. My faith is not a factor in it. I'll admit I did dehumanize them, it wrong, but it fueled me to do my work with my team. I don't think any of them worried about the religion vs the fool trying to kill them. I am a firm believer in my faith. No one can shake it away or take that from me. I know my God is a merciful yet vengeful God. Plenty of verses where someone was killed, or told to kill. Doesn't change me. But for Bill to label all of Islam a violent religion is the same as me saying all cops are trigger happy nutjobs, all whites I see are plotting to hang me, as a black man, I'm supposed to be locked up, for being black. You cannot make absolutes and then attempt to justify it. It's wrong. If it wasn't for the oil, we'd care less what goes on over there. Bill you're rather pompous and wrong. If you cannot look and compare openly admitting there are Christian nutjobs, Buddist, whatever. The percentages of terrorists who are Islamic, pale in comparison to the number of peaceful Muslims who want no part of that mess. I don't know how long this full video is, but I'd like him to have a debate with a Muslim Imam, and lets talk about comparisons. These religions are a lot closer than one would believe.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-35/how-did-native-americans-respond-to-christianity.html
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-35/how-did-native-americans-respond-to-christianity.html
How Did Native Americans Respond to Christianity?
A collection of eyewitness accounts
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SSG Warren Swan One the issue of the American, you are right. But the million dollar question, what has anyone done about it? Rape ratea are over 70% in some places. And the blame will lie with both parties, of course. What is sad, is to see rape victims in support groups crying. God sees all.
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Yes sir, but why is it, that the debate turns from what we are discussing to something else. How many hold to that view today? Virtually none. And who is sacred of Christians today? How many people bomb Mosques today. in the name of Jesus. SFC (Join to see)
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Sir, perception is reality and everyone have their own perception!!
Yes, it is happening today! You just have to look.
Throughout the last 1000 + years the followers of Christianity have attacked and killed innocent people because of their religion and forcefully converted much of them to Christianity. Please don't forget Crusades, holocast, inquisition, slavery of Africans and converting them to Christianity and even taking their native names away from them. Forcefully converting the natives from South America to Christianity, .......the list is very long and I don't want to hurt people's feelings specially when they are soo brain washed that they actually think that the Christianity is a peaceful and loving religion.
And if you think that Christians are not doing it anymore, doesn't mean that Christianity has somehow became peaceful. If someone is a true Christian then they do believe that the Bible is the word of Jesus (god) and if they are not practicing it, doesn't mean the Jesus became peaceful or loving somehow.
Yes, it is happening today! You just have to look.
Throughout the last 1000 + years the followers of Christianity have attacked and killed innocent people because of their religion and forcefully converted much of them to Christianity. Please don't forget Crusades, holocast, inquisition, slavery of Africans and converting them to Christianity and even taking their native names away from them. Forcefully converting the natives from South America to Christianity, .......the list is very long and I don't want to hurt people's feelings specially when they are soo brain washed that they actually think that the Christianity is a peaceful and loving religion.
And if you think that Christians are not doing it anymore, doesn't mean that Christianity has somehow became peaceful. If someone is a true Christian then they do believe that the Bible is the word of Jesus (god) and if they are not practicing it, doesn't mean the Jesus became peaceful or loving somehow.
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SFC Marcus Belt
Your argument is invalid because your proof is invalid. To be sure, men have committed countless atrocities in the name of Jesus but you clearly have no idea what the central message is. You took a section of a passage, out of context and misquoted it to make your point. Attempt to anyway.
Out of context and misquoted and perverted for your own ends you can make anything say anything, which is how those atrocities I just mentioned came to pass also.
Ironic, huh?
Out of context and misquoted and perverted for your own ends you can make anything say anything, which is how those atrocities I just mentioned came to pass also.
Ironic, huh?
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