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Maybe. Washington was a man of his time and in that time, slaves were property. Also, in that time, a man's word was his bond. If the British promised anything and reneged on it, Washington would have been peeved. We can only judge others by the culture of their time. Look at Walt Disney, a man much beloved for many decades. He was prejudiced against blacks and Jews. He also refused to hire people with facial hair to work at his theme park. (Yes, there is irony in that last statement.) Obviously we don't judge Disney by contemporary standards, do we?
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Black History Canada - War of 1812
On June 18, 1812, the United States declared war on Great Britain, which was at that time in a life and death struggle with Napoleon and France. Much of the war was fought at sea and on the Great Lakes but the American army also tried to invade Canada, then part of the British Empire. Blacks fought on both sides of the war, many with the US Navy. (Blacks made up somewhere between 10 and 20 percent of sailors manning the American ships on the...
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Interesting perspective LTC (Join to see). To be honest I doubt that George Washington thought much about former slaves who went north to Canada since he had the much larger problem of training, sustaining and fielding an army of militiamen, tinkers and farmers into a fighting force.
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LTC Stephen F.
Oney "Ona" Judge known as Oney Judge Staines after marriage to John Staines in 1797, was a mixed-race slave on George Washington's plantation, Mount Vernon, in Virginia.
She fled to another state which was New Hampshire after the nation of the USA was created.
That is much different focus than the subject of this discussion which is focused on the military aspects of former slaves fighting against the USA in the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812 IMHO.
1. Slavery was the law of the land until the Civil War ended and even then reconstruction was a struggle for many former slaves who were still slaves in fact if not indeed.
2. What is most interesting to me about the case of Oney Judge Staines is that she was able to live out a life of freedom in new Hampshire even though she was an escaped slave of a former POTUS.
3. In fact when she escaped he was POTUS. It is remarkable that he did not force NH to turn her over. He clearly eschewed most of the trappings of royalty which I am grateful for.
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She fled to another state which was New Hampshire after the nation of the USA was created.
That is much different focus than the subject of this discussion which is focused on the military aspects of former slaves fighting against the USA in the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812 IMHO.
1. Slavery was the law of the land until the Civil War ended and even then reconstruction was a struggle for many former slaves who were still slaves in fact if not indeed.
2. What is most interesting to me about the case of Oney Judge Staines is that she was able to live out a life of freedom in new Hampshire even though she was an escaped slave of a former POTUS.
3. In fact when she escaped he was POTUS. It is remarkable that he did not force NH to turn her over. He clearly eschewed most of the trappings of royalty which I am grateful for.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
I think both cases just illibated the fact that Washington did not view all people as humans. He was upset because the British were unwilling to sink to the depravity that he considered moral. He treared judge as a non-human also so the comparison is valid.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr - it's interesting if I recall correctly The General was also the same general who allowed the French to keep their culture and language in Quebec because he knew that if he didn't the Rumblings of the colonies would have been the same in Quebec after the French lost the French and Indian War. Pretty noble idea actually period I saw a one minute special where talked about a a black man walking up to a British general and being cocky saying that he served in the Revolutionary War and became a free man because of it and that he has military experience and he even though this guy was about 60 he was condescending to this general of tell him to let him fight and the general was impressed and allowed him to form his own militia unit which he was in charge of to and attack the American troops in the War of 1812 period I was impressed by this. Even though this is now over 205 years later is still as valid military history and now Canada United States are best of friends and NATO partners but they still have to work on the Discrimination because there is racism to both indigenous and other people in Canada. Just recently there were some guys driving around with Confederate flags on pickup trucks trying to beat people up and Edmonton. You have jerks everywhere and true families and Daughters of Confederates in the Southern United States would consider this a travesty
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