Posted on Sep 29, 2017
Operation Unthinkable: Britain's Secret Plan to Invade Russia in 1945
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Excellent read PO1 Tony Holland and staggers the mind to think of how long this would have lasted- or the scenarios that could play out. The part about arming former Nazis is scary as well. Armchair QB'ing aside- anyone think this objective could have been achieved? LTC Stephen F.SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell MSgt Jason McClishSMSgt Lawrence McCarter TSgt Joe C. Capt Dwayne ConyersMSgt Stephen Council Maj William W. "Bill" PriceSgt Steven Thomas SrA Christopher Wright SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas SP5 Robert Ruck SSgt Robert MarxSFC (Join to see) MSG Andrew White SGT (Join to see) SFC Stephen King Alan K.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Consider that with the exception of America, everyone on the continent had done this time and time before. And again. One war France is the enemy, next war, Germany, etc. So "jumping from one war into another" was not foreign to the average European. This is why the Cold War is lauded on the continent as the longest period of peacetime the area has had. In fact, France pissed Stalin off by being a little too quick to restore relations with Germany post-WW2.
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SSgt Robert Marx
If this plan existed at all, it was a hypothetical “what if”, not an actual planned operation. All of the American generals went home unaware of such a plan. Gen. Patton, who loved war and wished to continue onward to take out Stalin, died in Nov. 1945 a broken man, hurt in an automobile accident, convinced that war was done in Europe for he had even volunteered to command a division against Japan.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Yes - by all means it was a what-if. Oft-mentioned prior to the official declassifications in the 1970's. The bean-counters sat Winston down and let him know which parts of the empire to break up and which to keep and sadly, the majority of it centered around India. In a reverse-Dunkirk, Britain had to funnel a sh*t-load of weaponry to Asia as "insurance" all the while playing the poor-card to FDR. UK had USA convinced for the longest time that their ships couldn't operate in the far East.
What is also scary interesting is that the special relationship between Britain and America did not exist in 1941. In fact, most of military America was anglo-phobe. So Churchill was faced with the prospect of defending their empire on his own. The initial plans for Dieppe would have knocked Italy out of the war in a week, France out forever and by Christmas 1941, Russia and Germany would be locked in an attrition war on German soil. Had Japan done nothing except attack America, Britain would not have declared war on Japan and her far Eastern fleet would have been "on hand" to take part in Dieppe.
What is also scary interesting is that the special relationship between Britain and America did not exist in 1941. In fact, most of military America was anglo-phobe. So Churchill was faced with the prospect of defending their empire on his own. The initial plans for Dieppe would have knocked Italy out of the war in a week, France out forever and by Christmas 1941, Russia and Germany would be locked in an attrition war on German soil. Had Japan done nothing except attack America, Britain would not have declared war on Japan and her far Eastern fleet would have been "on hand" to take part in Dieppe.
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This tends to confirm things that I have heard this tends to confirm things that I have heard from former German prisoners of War. A lot of units were kept intact after the war ended especially in Norway, Italy and Bavaria and even maintained their weapons.
Patton was certainly an advocate of taking down the Soviet Union well we had the Army and plays to do it and he planned to use large numbers of German soldiers who had extensive experience fighting in Russia.
Eisenhower however was much more astute in realizing that both America and Britain had no stomach for such a war. Although we often hear people talk about World War II as the good War, in fact most Americans were relieved that it was over and were just glad to be alive.
Patton was certainly an advocate of taking down the Soviet Union well we had the Army and plays to do it and he planned to use large numbers of German soldiers who had extensive experience fighting in Russia.
Eisenhower however was much more astute in realizing that both America and Britain had no stomach for such a war. Although we often hear people talk about World War II as the good War, in fact most Americans were relieved that it was over and were just glad to be alive.
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Winston Churchill was a great military leader. I visited his memorial in London.
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