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Posted on Jun 7, 2016
If God separated the world by language, wouldn't he have sent a prophet who spoke each tongue in order to reunite all of His people?
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My question isn't about which religion is correct, rather are they all? In Genesis 11:7 God said, "Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other." In my mind it stands to reason when He sought to save His people He would have sent many prophets. Also that it was the leaders of the respective religions that came up with my way is the only way.
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For those who have a personal relationship with God, He speaks directly to our spirit SPC Rory J. Mattheisen. God communicates directly with us like He communicated with the prophets of the Old Testament period and the New Testament period.
When we see, hear, smell, or taste what we sense is "processed" by our mind/brain and therefore we perceive indirectly. God communicates directly to those He calls His own.
Islam demands that in order to understand the words of their unique prophet you must be able to read the Arabic text that was extent at his time.
Judaism prefers communication in Hebrew or Aramaic; but it is acceptable to speak, read and listen in the mother tongue of whoever is a Jew.
Christianity can be communicated in any language. Wycliffe Bible Translators and other organizations have been working to develop written languages for those languages which have no written language as a gateway to developing the Bible in each language.
LTC Stephen C. SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas LTC Stephen Conway MAJ David Wallace SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT (Join to see) SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert Hawks SGT Robert George SGT Forrest Stewart SP5 Mark Kuzinski SrA Christopher Wright SPC (Join to see) SPC Corbin Sayi
When we see, hear, smell, or taste what we sense is "processed" by our mind/brain and therefore we perceive indirectly. God communicates directly to those He calls His own.
Islam demands that in order to understand the words of their unique prophet you must be able to read the Arabic text that was extent at his time.
Judaism prefers communication in Hebrew or Aramaic; but it is acceptable to speak, read and listen in the mother tongue of whoever is a Jew.
Christianity can be communicated in any language. Wycliffe Bible Translators and other organizations have been working to develop written languages for those languages which have no written language as a gateway to developing the Bible in each language.
LTC Stephen C. SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas LTC Stephen Conway MAJ David Wallace SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SGT (Join to see) SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert Hawks SGT Robert George SGT Forrest Stewart SP5 Mark Kuzinski SrA Christopher Wright SPC (Join to see) SPC Corbin Sayi
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LTC Stephen F. - Our life, world, and universe as we know it are materialistic. Every thought or idea anyone has ever had is based upon experience, in effect manufacturing humans (or any other experientially reliant entity) as intrinsically materialistic, thus making everything pertinent to humans "[require] a non-theistic" cause. Even ideology is materially based.
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SSG William Jones
I see this conversation easily transitioning into a discussion about the antichrist, who will deceive many, many people who are both learned and ignorant. The antichrist isn’t a symbol or a figure of speech. The Bible says he is real, and that shortly before Christ’s return the antichrist will come in a final, desperate attempt by Satan to destroy God’s work. The Bible calls him “the man of lawlessness … (who) will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
At the same time, the Bible warns us against jumping to conclusions about the identity of the antichrist, or trying to predict when he will come–just as it cautions us against trying to predict when Christ will come again. In fact, the Bible says that the evil spirit of the antichrist is always working in the world–and the reason is because Satan is always at work. The Bible says, “Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come” (1 John 2:18).
LTC Stephen F. SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
At the same time, the Bible warns us against jumping to conclusions about the identity of the antichrist, or trying to predict when he will come–just as it cautions us against trying to predict when Christ will come again. In fact, the Bible says that the evil spirit of the antichrist is always working in the world–and the reason is because Satan is always at work. The Bible says, “Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come” (1 John 2:18).
LTC Stephen F. SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
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SSG William Jones
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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Um... wasn't that the whole point of Epiphany? When the Holy Spirit visited the Disciples as tongues of flame over their heads, and they began speaking in every language known?
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CPT Kurk Harris
I am right there with you Edward. When you overlay the great commission with the gift of tongues, you get Prophets in every language. Kinda fits with the whole belief of reconciliation, eh? Was that Epiphany or Pentecost?
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PFC Teresa Walker
Amen brother! I believe you know what many of us know. The day of Pentcost restored this who belong to God by His Spirit and gave us a very powerful language. We who speak it understand it fully. Those who do not simply do not understand. When they come against it, that does not offend me at all. It saddens my heart and I pray for them.
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PFC Teresa Walker
Hallelujah! Another brother who understands!!! Yes! I believe and know this!!!CPT Kurk Harris -
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Religious are made by man to make sense of the world, it should come as no surprise that people in harsh climates would perceive God as harsh or that people in areas that easily supported life would perceive God(s) differently. One way we can judge religion is by looking at the impact it has on it's followers. If one looks hard enough though, there is no doubt in my mind that almost every religion has really good and really terrible people following it which makes identifying the goodness or badness of a religion extremely difficult. Outside of noting that fundamentalism tends to sour the fruit in any religion where it's applied overzealously I hesitate to condemn the religious beliefs of anyone. All we can do, is do our best to love God(s), this world and our fellow men.
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Well I must say that I am very disappointed that you have based 99% of your argument upon untested personal supposition. I expected more from you based upon our previous discussions.
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CPT (Join to see) - My intent was to prove an abstract of my beliefs regarding religion, I have yet to write an actual book on the subject where I detail how and why I reached those conclusions.
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I think, if you were to look closely, you would notice that all major religions are very similar. Judaism borrowed heavily from the older Sumerian religions. Christianity and Islam are both heavily based on Judaism. Hinduism remained polytheistic, but still has some of the same ancient stories as Judaism. Then you have Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism, which all teach the same basic moral principles as the Abrahamic religions.
Short answer, is yes, they are all correct. Or, more to the point, different versions of the same truth. One could go as far to say that God gave each the same message, but that they interpreted the message differently.
Short answer, is yes, they are all correct. Or, more to the point, different versions of the same truth. One could go as far to say that God gave each the same message, but that they interpreted the message differently.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
And I don't think that God is an old white man with a flowing white beard, but, to each his own.
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SGT Bryon Sergent - Neither do Hindu people... cows are honored as symbols of Gods kindness and nurturing nature. http://www.nhsf.org.uk/2007/05/why-do-hindus-worship-the-cow/
Why do Hindus worship the cow? - National Hindu Students' Forum (UK)
Hindus don’t worship cows. We respect, honour and adore the cow. By honouring this gentle animal, who gives more than she takes, we honour all creatures. Hindus regard all living creatures as sacred – mammals, fishes, birds and more. ... Read More
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And if languages were meant to prevent us from understanding each other, why are some people able to learn more than one?
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Capt Gregory Prickett - I am well known on RP as a rather strident atheist. I also speak five languages, proof that god's power to confuse is vastly inferior to my power to learn.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
I know about a dozen words in a dozen different languages most of which gets my faced slapped by the Ladies.
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I don't think this question is for me, but I'll throw an answer out there anyway. With regard to the verse you cite, and being charitable, I'd say the writer(s) wanted to explain the disparity of languages people encountered in the course of dealing with nations like Babylon, Egypt, etc.. Attributing this to a god made sense to them, and still does to some people. And, of course, people who still think it makes sense to attribute language differences to divine intervention can easily conceive of a large variety of ways to justify their belief. But, being an atheist, I would say something like this, wouldn't I?
I can see it. The problem comes with man's translation and now man understands it. This seems to be the biggest problem.
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PO3 Sherry Thornburg
There is that. the King James was written by scholars, but there weren't English words for some Greek terms, so they had to come up with something. Translating God's unconditional love into the word charity is one example. Later translations have tried to be more precise, but arguments remain. When I looked into this, I chose the New International version as it was a more literal translation from the original Greek and Latin, but I'm told there are a few issues even with that.
Humans seem to have a need to complain about everything.
Humans seem to have a need to complain about everything.
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SPC Rory J. Mattheisen - Interesting thought about religions. Makes sense to me.
It is interesting how a comment about religions, in general, turns into comments about specific religions, i.e. advocating for a religion and/or criticizing a religion especially when the comment starts with "My question isn't about which religion is correct".
It is interesting how a comment about religions, in general, turns into comments about specific religions, i.e. advocating for a religion and/or criticizing a religion especially when the comment starts with "My question isn't about which religion is correct".
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Brother we do have one language in Christ and to Christ. We have had since the day of Pentecost. Many can not receive this language because they have been taught against it. The secular world also has another one world language. Remember what He said about it the first time???? "Now NOTHING is impossible for them!!" Brother our knowledge today has brought to the point of being able to turn off the switch to the aging process. Immortality apart from God. I hear His previous footsteps on the porch brother. He will knock soon!! The new one world language is the binary code computers are based in brother. The Bet belongs to my Father, and His uses it to catch men. The enemy, well you know what they use it for.
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