Posted on Mar 28, 2014
Col Regional Director, Whem/Ssa And Congressional Liaison
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Ah yes, we've all seen them; "so, there you were" in a theater or a room full of service members or veterans, one minute everything's ok, then all of a sudden there it is... the over-the-top military movie discrepancy! So, what was that moment that stands out most in your mind? What are those associated memories or stories that come to mind? Did the base theater erupt into 'chaos' over an unkempt/incorrect uniform, improper language/jargon/ customs, or was there something that was just plain 'unsat' from a military point-of-view. lol Well, there's a ton of them out there, and I'm pretty sure that something should immediately come to mind, so what are we waiting for? Quick, pull up a keyboard, and let's get this thing started; thanks for all that you do, and... see you all in the discussion threads!
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Maj Chris Nelson
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<p>Rambo, when rescuing the POWs in Vietnam, landing the Huey in the river, then shooting the LAW thru the front window at the Russian HIN-D....with all those POW's in the back blast area.....oops.....and nobody harmed!</p><p><br></p>
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SGT Glenn E Moody
SGT Glenn E Moody
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LTC Warren Miller - hahaha yes remember it well 1st thing you do before firing the LAW is look behind you yell out the command back blast clear then you fire when your safety tells you all clear
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LTC Warren Miller
LTC Warren Miller
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SGT Glenn E Moody I was TDY to Benning for a couple of weeks as a PFC in 1985. Was working in the Harmony Church area - didn’t find Sand Hill until another TDY trip a quarter century later. Most likely went to a theater in Columbus with a teammate who had wheels. I remember the room full of hardcore 11B types who went nuts when the mud wall opened his eyes right before the unrealistic LAW firing.
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MAJ Lyle F. Padilla
MAJ Lyle F. Padilla
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Let's not forget whichever of the RAMBO movies it was where Rambo drives a tank, aims the main gun, loads it and engages multiple targets, all by himself without getting out of the gunner's seat!
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PFC Craig Karshner
PFC Craig Karshner
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Yes have to say back blast all clear before firing the law..Rangers lead the way
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PO1 Rodney Bracey
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Battleship (2012)

The USS Missouri memorial got underway with less than a skeleton crew but more importantly, it is a museum ship. It does not have any fuel on board nor any capability to get underway. It also does not have 16" shells nor powder on board. Not only that but to fire the 16" guns, it takes a crew of no less than 90 Sailors to fire the guns. Also, a 16" high explosive shell weighs about 2700 pounds, not 1000 pounds as stated in the movie. It cannot be carried from 1 turret to another above nor below decks. When missiles are fired at the alien ship - they were SM2 when they were launched but turned into Tomahawks as they flew towards the aliens. (former Battleship Sailor)
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SSgt Charles Edwards
SSgt Charles Edwards
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They practically did the same thing in Under Siege. With the same ship too!
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CAPT Lyle Brown
CAPT Lyle Brown
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My favorite part of that movie was when the "CO" said "Fire everything"!
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PO2 Daniel Brown
PO2 Daniel Brown
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SSgt Charles Edwards - Actually "under Siege" was filed on the USS Alabama in Mobile Bay. Missouri is an Iowa Class BB. most distinguished difference two funnels. Alabama is a South Dakota Class, single funnel. [USN Signalman 2nd Class 1966-71.]
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PFC Gerald Bailey
PFC Gerald Bailey
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I used to have a model of the original BB63. With that said, I knew what they were doing was not possible. I was still a fairly entertaining movie.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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All of them. Too many to name. The best part for me is how aggravated my wife gets with me when I point them out. "it's just a movie". Nope, at least try and get close...all I am asking.
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PO3 David Mondello
PO3 David Mondello
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My Wife won't watch military movies with me anymore.
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Dod Civilian
Dod Civilian
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Keep in mind, the Film Industry is not allowed to wear the official Uniform since they are not enlisted. So you may see some sort of discrepancies from the normal Reg... that’s because it was purposely done.
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Dod Civilian
Dod Civilian
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Ex.. as annoying as It is... seeing actors wearing the Army ACUS with the collars up.
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SSG Kenneth Davenport
SSG Kenneth Davenport
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Dod Civilian - You are not totally correct,actors are allowed wear military uniforms as long as the context of the film or wearing of the uniform does not discredit or paint the US military in a bad light.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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My wife sends me to our room and watches TV downstairs with the kids. Since military educators have not come out with the family version of "Hooked on Phonetics" yet, my kids are none the wiser when they hear "Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot" or "Bravo-Sierra" coming from the bedroom.
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SrA Jeff Campbell
SrA Jeff Campbell
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That is HILARIOUS!!!!! Thanks for your service Major!
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Right back at you SrA Jeff Campbell ! And thanks for your support.
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SFC Mark Merino
SFC Mark Merino
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Fellow TV arguer :)
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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SFC Mark Merino - People are amazed at me. Why you ask? Well I can change the channels while still on the coach. But I do roll over from time to time. Oh life's challenges.
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MAJ Commander
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In the climactic scene of the 1989 civil war epic Glory, the ocean is on the wrong side during the attack on Fort Wagner.
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LTC Paul Labrador
LTC Paul Labrador
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Also there weren't white regiments following the 54th in line of attack.
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MSG James Mace
MSG James Mace
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They also inaccurately state at the end that Fort Wagner was never taken. It did eventually fall, and the 54th was posted there for a time. Also, while Morgan Freeman was at his best as the Regimental Sgt Major, the real RSM of the 54th was 23-year old Lewis Douglass, who was also the son of the renowned statesman, Frederick Douglass. Interestingly, Morgan Freeman clarifies these points when he narrated an excellent documentary on the history of the 54th.
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LTC William Bridgeman
LTC William Bridgeman
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My Great-grandfather CPT Wm. E. Charles is in Battery Wagner in July 1863, when the 54th Mass made its famous assault. Unlike the movie depiction, he described the attack as a "slaughter".
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LTC Paul Labrador
LTC Paul Labrador
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LTC William Bridgeman, dunno, the movie pretty much showed the assualt as a slaughter.
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LTJG Robert M.
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One of the X-men movies depicts the infamous Cuban missile crisis (Oct '62) with Russia and the marines on the deck of the ships are carrying M-16's. Those did not hit service until 1964!
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Col Regional Director, Whem/Ssa And Congressional Liaison
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LTJG Myles, good eye, the movie you described is "X-Men: First Class" and you're spot-on, in fact someone took quite a bit of time and detailed all of the firearms used in the movie (see the link below); again, great catch! http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/X-Men:_First_Class

 

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PFC Nathaniel Culbertson
PFC Nathaniel Culbertson
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Also it showed that the military was making all the decisions and not President Kennedy
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SFC Cryptologic Network Warfare Specialist
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PFC Nathaniel Culbertson, so what is it going to be? Should the President make military decision or not? You can't talk bad about him when he isn't making a fast and decisive decision and him making all the military decision. Pick one side.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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In "I Am Legend": First off Will Smith in Class A's and having a beard. Yeah, he COULD have had a shaving profile, but not with that baby face... And then during the final zombie assault on his house, when he is shooting his M4. When he runs out of ammo during the fight you will hear his rifle go "bang, bang, bang, click, click, click, click." Uhm sorry, but an M4 uses a single action trigger mechanism and the bolt locks back after the last shot. No "click, click, click" after you run out of ammo.
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MAJ Brigade Logistics Officer (S4)
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Will smith
Yep, that movie had it's share of discrepencies. On the bright side, though, they hired actual soldiers from the 69th Infantry to be extras in the riot control scene on the Brooklyn docks. That was a lot of fun!
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SSG Clayton Krieg
SSG Clayton Krieg
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Well, there is a part where smith walks past some soldiers and they say " can't get use to the new regs" and they motion at his beard...at least it is semi self aware.
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SPC David Schuler
SPC David Schuler
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Add any movie or TV show where they keep pulling the trigger on an auto or semi-automatic weapon after the last round. Revolvers seen with empty chambers where the cylinder has to advance with the next trigger pull. Unless you're already cocked or you're going to pistol whip me, screw you and your "Put your hands up". That's when I start to shout at the actor.
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SSgt James Howerton
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The one (among many others) that ticks me off every time I see it is the movie "A Few Good Men."  In it a procedure called a "Code Red" ends up killing another Marine.  I spent a total of 16 years in the Corps and never heard of a "Code Red."  No Marine in his right mind would risk losing his hard-earned stripes beating the crap out of another Marine as part of a mob.  Drunken fights, that's a different thing.  All branches see those, I'm sure.  Now, I did see an involuntary bath given to a Marine because he never bathed and stunk to high Heaven.  Living at the time in an open squad-bay his B.O. wafted throughout the entire barracks and just got to be too much to take.  Floor-scrubbing brushes (the type with pretty stiff bristles) were used along with Lava soap.  He was told this would happen once a week unless he started bathing frequently.  It worked.  Never smelled him again.  As far as the "Code Red" goes, it is absolutely ludicrous.  But then again, Hollywood never lets the facts get in the way of a good story, especially an anti-military movie.  The movie portrays all enlisted Marines as being either robots who carry out orders without EVER questioning their lawfulness; or hard-ass, blood-thirsty killers.  They don't do Officers any favors in that movie either, except the liberal Lieutenant (JG) who's an attorney and all the other lawyers in the movie.  Of course we all know lawyers have high moral and professional standards as witnessed by all the ones in Washington, D.C. who are currently running (ruining?) our Country.  Either way you get the impression that Marines are not too bright, certainly not as smart as a Naval Officer performing as a lawyer.  In my experience real Naval Officers and Marine Officers are both extremely bright and many enlisted personnel are also pretty dang smart, too.  That "Code Red" business just ticks me off, though.  As far as Military Appearance (uniforms, haircuts, etc.) there are just too many movies to name where those things are FUBAR.  The sad thing about "A Few Good Men" is it's actually a pretty good movie as far as it's entertainment value.  Jack Nicholson is extremely believable as a Jarhead, even as limited as his character is through the screen play.  But I just can't see a Marine Corps Colonel, primed to get his first star, taking the route Nicholson's character does as far as the embittered Marine PFC Santiago, his demise and the cover-up that followed.  You don't rise to a full-bird Colonel in the Marines without great leadership abilities, which is the main thing that Nicholson's character lacks.  The one Marine Corps movie that made me feel as though I was re-living part of my youth is "Jarhead."  Accurate in every detail except when I went through (right after the Vietnam war ended) Drill Instructors still used their hands to emphasize a point, sort of like the movie, "Full Metal Jacket," but to a lesser extent.     
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SSgt James Howerton
SSgt James Howerton
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They are extremely impressive.
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SGT Glenn E Moody
SGT Glenn E Moody
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not a movie but a true story this one pvt that made it harder for everyone got A blanket party bars of soap in the pillow case jumped the fire watch duct tape a blanket over him so he couldn't see any thing just like full metal jacket everyone took a few swings this pvt took a swing at the drill SGT no one ever got caught for it and it seamed like the extra we got because of this pvt stopped or was not as bad now I my self was a witness for the drill STG that the pvt took a swing at had to make a stamen to the BN Commander full bird COL. on the way to see the Commander the Drill SGT asked me if I saw anything about the blanket party I was sleeping sorry didn't see anything after that he had a different respect for me & the whole PLT. gave me the guide on to carry now to this day I carry the unit colors I am the SGT of ARMS for the 26th (YANKEE) Infantry Division Veterans ASSOC. known as the YDVA BOSTON CHAPTER
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SPC Ramon Urias
SPC Ramon Urias
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You also have to take into consideration who wrote the play and screenplay and directed the movie.
The whole “ten-hut, there’s and officer on deck” and lame-ass salute made me want to puke between laughing fits.
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Fun fact, Dr. David Iglesias was one of the actual lawyers in the real life trial and a primary inspiration for the Tom Cruise character. He teaches at my college (Wheaton College, IL), now retired from the Navy.

I've heard him say some good things about the movie, he doesn't think it's all bad. People are always asking him about it as you would imagine.
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Capt Richard Desmond
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Broken arrow
It was basically the entire movie "Broken Arrow" with John Travolta and Christian Slater. 1st Broken Arrow isn't even the code for lost nuclear weapons, it is Bent Arrow, according to "We Were Soldiers", Broken Arrow means a US unit is being overrun and all aircraft in the AOR are supposed to come in for air support. The 2nd one was when they hit the "Stealth switch" on the B-2, oh man that had me rolling!
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TSgt Melissa Post
TSgt Melissa Post
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - Thank you for the correction. This is also my area of expertise. And my base, more specifically my squadron, inevitably is always reminded of how we f'd up. lol neither broken arrow nor bent spear is the term for missing weapons.
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SGT Retired
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They weren’t flying a B2 in Broken Arrow. They flew a fictional successor, the B3.
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SSG Signals Intelligence Analyst
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I need to install a Stealth switch on my car for days when I'm running late to work...
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SPC Paul Weegar
SPC Paul Weegar
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And there would be a hell of a lot more personnel involved in finding/retaking a lost/stolen nuke. EVERY military organization in the area would be placed on alert and activated. Including National Guard units and civilian LE. Roads would be closed, cars searched, and when in a suspected area, it would really suck to be a live human. I know. I was an MP at a weapons depot in northern Ca. (The depot no longer exists as such). We were told that we were there as a line of defense and not much more. Travolta isn't much of an actor, IMHO.
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In Feb 2001, the film crew came onboard the USS Carl Vinson to film "Behind Enemy Lines." We were requested to be extras in the background while on the flight deck:

In one scene, Owen Wilson catapults a football. A BIG, no-no. In another scene, Gene Hackman walks onto the flight deck with his cranial underneath his armpit - a HUGE no-no for flight ops protocol. We are always manned up and ready in full flight-deck gear whenever we get ready for flight ops. But, for the sake of Hollywood, they wanted it in the movie.

In the picture, I am with actor, Malik Whitfield.
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Maj Ahron Oddman
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Thanks for sharing the pic.
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PO1 John Pokrzywa
PO1 John Pokrzywa
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That movie is so full of crap. One of the first things I ever did in the Navy had me (amongst a lot of other things) repairing URT-33 transponders in pilots' ejection seats. They neither beep, nor do they have flashing lights.
I also have issue with the idea that an early 90's PRC-90 or 90-2 is supposedly reaching all the way out to a ship. It must've been REALLY close. Those weren't satellite capable radios.
Then, (and this one drives me nuts too) during the rescue mission scene they call for a "fast rope"... and proceed to have a guy hanging from a cable reaching out with his hands. Probably everyone on this forum whose been into harms way on a helicopter knows how ridiculous that is, too.
And as a former Navy SAR swimmer, don't even get me started on "The Guardian". Can't watch it with a straight face.
The thing that kills me here, I understand some things they're guessing, but if they'd even apply common sense, they'd be more accurate I think.
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Also, the longest SA-8 engagement known to man. And I've never heard the "jettison your external fuel tanks" as a countermeasure.
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