Posted on Dec 17, 2014
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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the closest I seen to a standard uniform for the Armed Forces was the multicam uniform when I was in Kandahar, and Air Force all wearing the uniform at one point with few deviations. Would do feel about this?
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We never should have gotten away from it. The Marines started it then all of the other services had to jump in. Such a waste of resources...and we cry poverty when it comes to training dollars and O/M money.
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Answer: Yes, provided the camouflage actually blends in all environments were the forces are operating.

Reason: Cost savings to the tax payers. Yeah, it's that simple.
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PO1 John Meyer, CPC
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I think of pride in the branch of service an individual enters in when I think of something like this. I agree with those who say they wouldn't support something like this.
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No, not unless in a common operational area.

All things aside, I think we tend to take pride in being clearly distinguished from other services. Granted, we all fight the same fight, but the uniform uniqueness adds a bit of pride to branch service. In my opinion.
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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I understand your viewpoint, and I would keep the distinguishing service uniforms for the reasons you described.
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SPC Robert Coventry
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LTC Stephen F.
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Do you remember BDUs, my friend SPC Robert Coventry ? In the 1990's ever service wore BDUs the only difference were rank insignia and color of name stitching and service stitching.
1. Having common duty uniforms for combat reduce overall cost to manufacture and acquire.
2. By the way, Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment has longer life than most duty uniforms. Matching camp patterns of equipment to uniform makes a lot of sense IMHO,
I think i replied to this question a year or so ago.
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SSG Erik McKinster
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Here's my 2¢... Every service needs to maintain their own their own service & dress uniforms. These uniforms are stepped in history & tradition. Their roles... But DOD meds to pull it together on Battle Dress Uniform/Utilities. Completely ridiculous!

Whoever decided that blues and greys in camouflage pattern deserves the same fate as dose the creator of the ACU... a sound beating. If a situation warrents a pattern, then the color scheme should resemble the terrain. And they should all be the same. Exceptions to this could include service specific details, such as Army name tappes, the Marine Corp EGA, etc.

I would also be a fan of the camo uniform only be used during training or deployment, and bringing back the utility/work uniform...
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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With so many more joint operations with different branches of the service it seems at least the pattern of any camouflage uniform should be the same. Keep the service specific insignia. With people from different service all in the field together and not matching doesn't seem to make much sense. Patterns that blend with the location Would help, some of these uniforms stand out say against woodland as an example only a little better than white would. At least the Marines have figured out what colors and in nature and set out to blend with that. Seems the other services could learn from that. Instead of wasting money on all sorts of patterns that don't work, adopt one that does for all services. Only difference should be where the task is, dessert, woodland etc. Only class A and Class B uniforms should be specific to any one branch of the service. Shown here is one sampling of a number of different camouflage patterns and even more types have been added since this chart.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Good to know they understand the issue and have addressed it.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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PO1 (Join to see) - Would that be a solid darker blue resembling what the Coast Guard has ? I haven't seen that new Navy uniform yet.
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SM Sgt. Lawrence McCarter,
The NWU type 3 is the digital woodland type 2 is desert and type 1 is going away it's the blue cammo that never made sense to any of us sailors.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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The last thing I want is uniforms that provide camouflage if I go overboard into a blue ocean or melt to the skin in a fire.
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Capt James Warren
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It's down to parts commonality; small group of vendors producing a quality battle uniform that not only readily identifies US forces but has all respective services using the same resources (i.e. Joint base carries one uniform with service-unique rank, badges, etc). We should have immediately recognized the waste from having every service strike out on their own to research and produce a distinctive uniform, the duplication of effort is mind-boggling in this era of financial constraints vying against new weapon systems with runaway budgets. If more than one uniform, then at least operational environment-specific uniforms, in lieu of service-specific.
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Yes. This ain't no fashion show... to speak in old "hardass" NCO terms. We're here to fight and win wars. We (all) need the most effective camouflage pattern for the terrain we are in. If you want to wear different uniforms when not in combat, go back to the class-A/class-B garrison uniform. Camouflage is designed to blend in to the surrounding area, if you're just trying to look different than your ally counterparts, it might be time to rethink your priorities. I think it's well beyond fraud, waste and abuse the way we've spent millions of tax dollars (between all the branches) just to pick the prettiest (often least effective) pattern.

One team, one fight.
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COL Charles Williams
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Another good one. The Marines went to digital, then Army did... The Navy and USAF were still sporting DBDUs... then they decided they needed a new uniform too... Riddle me the this batman.... why does the Air Force need Sage Green Tiger Stripes? and Green Boots? Why do Sailors need blue digital camouflage? You would think the Navy would have orange, so if they fell off a ship, someone could see you.... The ACU concept was a worthy idea (one camo pattern for every where) except it worked no where...

That aside, I think we all should have standard utility uniforms, with minimal markings (you know the Army gets carried away as does the Air Force with utility patches and badges...) and then a few variants for the most likely environments we will face.

I like the idea of a single combat uniform. So long as there are variants for different climates and terrain...
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Cpl Phil Hsueh
Cpl Phil Hsueh
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With respect sir, the Navy's camos purpose is to hide dirt, grease, and paint stains and is not meant as a field uniform. They have the NWU II & III/AOR 1 & 2 for actual field use and they closely resemble desert and woodland MARPAT.

The ACU, as you should know, is not a camouflage pattern but a uniform pattern. The ACU currently comes in UCP (Universal Camouflage Pattern), and two flavors of OCP. But I do agree that UCP is completely worthless but from what I've read, when developing UCP the Army was more concerned about how it performed under IR than visible light. Allegedly, the Army created UCP by choosing the color that worked the best under IR from the M81 woodlands, the 3 color desert DCU, and an urban pattern.
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