Posted on Nov 3, 2013
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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?

"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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LTC Gene Shewbert
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I agree and support the regulation when it comes to saluting, but the truth is the salute is a time honored recognition between warriors.  It is rendered out of respect for each other and the tasks we are asked to perform.  We too often see saluting as some obligatory requirement to recognize rank.  Too often I heard Non-commissioned officers stating, "that LT is barely out of school, with my experience he should be saluting me."  When I have encountered this, I have always taken the position of your right...you have a great deal of experience and as the Trainer of Soldiers it is your responsibility to TRAIN that officer and bring him or her up to speed with their duties and skill sets....it isn't about rank...its about creating a survivable combat team.  Recognize the fact that every Soldier took an oath...put on their uniform and understands the responsibility....exchange the salute as kin warriors.
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Sgt Charles Welling
Sgt Charles Welling
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Gee, somehow it is simple to me. I joined the Marines, they did not ask me to. I accepted everything that was required of me and saluting officers was one of them. The same applies to you whether you are a 2nt Lt or a Major General, if he/she outranks you and is an officer, you salute, no argument, no egotistical bull shit. Get over yourself and become a part of the team not a problem for the team.
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MSG Loren Tomblin
MSG Loren Tomblin
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PV2 Glenn E Moody - When I was in "Nam we had an XO (Infantry Company) that required us to stay in uniform even in the field. So, we would salute him to see him drop to the prone yelling at us. He eventually gave up his quest to keep us STRAC. Oops, sorry sir it is a natural reflex to respond with a salute.
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PV2 Glenn E Moody
PV2 Glenn E Moody
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MSG Loren Tomblin - well glad you made it home from there I only got deployed to Germany for Refordger 1985 when the Russian ware playing games with our NAVY not just ships but sub's to I remember it I just saw footage of their tiny ships trying to push ous large aircraft carrier that almost capsized them self the sub's we really didn't hear to much about I think it is still classified
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CW2 Bruce Rodewald
CW2 Bruce Rodewald
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MSG Loren Tomblin - dumbass, should have spent some time outside the wire.....
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MG Chief Executive Officer (Ceo)
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When I was a young 2LT, back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, my company commander was a 1LT. He was a great leader and a great mentor. I would have considered it disrespectful not to salute him. Less because of his rank, but more because of who he was and the position that he held. Should we feel any different about LTC's saluting COL's or BG's saluting MG's? Of course not. Each is entitled to a salute IAW military regulations and customs and courtesies. I would feel bad if I hadn't rendered a salute to that 1LT who helped me get to where I am today!
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PV2 Glenn E Moody
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yes sir each case is different but when it is demanded of you from the new ROTC 2nd LT who got the rank from being in HIGH School R O T C program & didn't go to O C S & earn it like you most likely did & orders you to do so after being trained for 4 to 5 years to never Salute an officer in the field
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MSgt Paul Connors
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LTC Meloni Beauchamp - I assume you meant he was a RIFed officer who came back as an E-7 because I don't believe there were all that many rank reductions for NCOs post Vietnam?
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LTC Meloni Beauchamp
LTC Meloni Beauchamp
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MSgt Paul Connors - Yes, he was given a direct commission in Vietnam, not a battlefield commission and spent a few years as an Infantry officer.
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MSgt Paul Connors
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I served with several RIFed officers who reverted to the NCO ranks. I also served with several former warrant officers who were then commissioned, but later RIFed as Captains because they lacked college degrees. Some of these RIFed Captains managed to keep their commissions in the Guard and Reserve. Others resigned their commissions and returned to the warrant officer corps to continue to fly.
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The other day I watched our Battalion CSM salute a brand new WO1 who had
just recently returned from WOCS. The WO1 looked surprised, embarrassed and
proud all at once and as for the CSM, he was doing what was right and
respectful and thought nothing else of it. It warmed my little NCO
heart. Be the example.<br>
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CWO4 Will Bush
CWO4 Will Bush
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That's the major difference between Army & Navy. We are all Chief Warrant Officer's (Commissioned CWO2 to CW05). Army has nonc-commissioned WO1's. Also, you must be a CPO, SCPO or MCPO (E7, D8, E9) to apply for the Chief Warrant Officer program. This is why our CWO's have so much respect by the enlisted community especially the Chief's community, we came from their ranks and they can't fool us. PS I was also a Commanding Officer as a CWO4 and had Army, Navy & Air-Force personnel (Joint Command) and we had a super team of Army, Navy, Air Force.
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SFC Shawn Harris
SFC Shawn Harris
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Lead by example!
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PO2 Skip Kirkwood
PO2 Skip Kirkwood
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CWO4 Will Bush - Different gig in the Army. Most of their WO/CW are helo pilots. Although there are a bunch of SF WO/CW, all of whom are ex senior enlisted.
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I agree entirely. Be the example!
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