Posted on Dec 10, 2019
SSG 25 Id Battle Nco
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Yesterday my 1sg smelled one of our soldiers cologne and made a big fuss about not wearing it in OCPs. I’ve never really had this issue to be honest though I’ve heard of this before. It personally seems like a waste as we are in Hawaii sweating our asses off in the sun while we work, but I digress. I’ve never had a personal problem with a soldier smelling good....bad? Yes....

I looked and didn’t see anything in DA PAM/AR 670-1 about not wearing perfumes and colognes in uniform. Honestly, I don’t care either way, it’s what 1sg said so that’s what goes, but he said it was in the regulations and I can’t find it to use in future references if needed. Just hoping someone can help me out or if it has merit at all? The closest thing I saw was an argument that coming to work “clean” means no “toxic chemicals” on your body....the argument seems rather weak to me though.
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*ACUs (OCP is the pattern - the uniform is still called the Army Combat Uniform).

I have never seen anything about perfume or cologne in any regulation. Makeup, hair, nail polish - yes.

It's not "what 1SG says goes" and not even sure what he said. However, to avoid any ridiculous bs from said 1SG I would just tell the soldier to lay off the cologne at work. I don't know why anyone feels the need for that or perfume in ACUs. To each his or her own.
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Way to address the ACU and "what 1sg says goes" comments, SFC.
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Ah... I'm guessing this was the "Axe Body Spray is a perfectly fine substitute for personal hygeine/bathing" Soldier?
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SPC Stewart Smith
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I don't think axe body spray is perfectly fine for any situation, even fresh out of the shower. What a....."potent" smell.
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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SPC Stewart Smith - Every unit has THAT guy... Especially in the field...
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SSG 25 Id Battle Nco
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Actually he’s the “obsessed with having a pristine uniform, thinks he has the best hair etc.” soldier. Unlike most other assumptions, his cologne was actually rather mild. 1sg was doing an in-rank inspection.
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SSG Nathan S.
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Hell SSG (Join to see) if I were that 1SG and smelled the cologne, I'd have asked the soldier what brand\line it was and made it part of the inspection.
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Since no other 1SG has commented yet, although a few MSG's have and might have been 1SGs at one point, I will comment.

I have been in this situation with females mainly, but what comes to mind is one male 1LT who was standing in as XO. He was a flowery smelling fragrant SOB that day and was in and out of my office all day. I told him he ought to lay off the pretty smells while drilling. He informed me there was no regulation that prevented it. So, as the consummate older 1SG must do I responded in kind:

"Is there a regulation that tells you exactly how long it takes to use the latrine?"
"Is there a regulation that addresses every situation you may find yourself in while in uniform?"

Then I told him it was fine with me if he wore that perfume, but please take it all with him when he leaves my office. Its just like smoking cigarettes to me, yes you can smoke, but I don't have to smell it.

No regulation. But I feel it falls under good order and discipline. If you say its OK for Top to dress down a stinky soldier (cleanliness health and welfare...) then its ok to tell you that you stink like flowers. Smells are selective with different people. You make like how you smell, but the guy or gal next to you may not and its offensive for you to offend them with your smell. And that stuff is my business as 1SG, as it is with every NCO in a leadership position. We wear UNIFORMS for UNIFORMITY, so you should not stand out by smelling (good or bad). Good order and discipline is every NCO's job.
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1SG Electrical Systems Planner Scheduler   Water/Wastewater Utility
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I will toss the whole "train as you fight" too. You wont be smelling like that downrange. Not for long anyway.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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OMG! A very floral scent at that. 1stSgt, I'd be very concerned, about his judgement & state of mind.
A discrete request Up the Chain to check him out Psychologically could be most prudent.
PS: I've been a Medic, interacted with health professionals of all sorts,
& even sat in individually and group with Social Workers, Psychologists, & Psychiatrists.
I'm far from an "outhouse lawyer," though not an expert.
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