Posted on Jul 25, 2018
Congress is giving the officer promotion system a massive overhaul
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Maybe some of you can tell us what the officer personnel management system was prior to 1980. I know this will help cyber command and the medical field. Any comments from rallypoint veterans who remember how it was a long time ago?
Congress is giving the officer promotion system a massive overhaul
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Interesting read- it doesn't really help me and won't change my direction at all. Will not shorten time between O-3 and O-4 which is my block. I did 28 years before I commissioned and started at O-1, had a doc come in at O-4 and he is an O-5 right now and will be an O-6 soon. He texts me weekly on uniform, TDY, and customs and courtesy type things. System is what it is and glad for those coming behind.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter Sgt Randy Wilber SGT Gregory Lawritson Cpl (Join to see) Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth LTC (Join to see) MSG Frederick Otero SFC Pete Kain SSG David Andrews SCPO Morris Ramsey SPC Margaret Higgins SGT Jim Arnold PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SGT Charles H. Hawes CPL Dave Hoover SSgt Brian Brakke TSgt Joe C. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price LTC Greg Henning
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Maj Marty Hogan
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth - when I was the MAO my docs were all leaders in their field. Those I recruited at younger ages wanted loans paid off and rank. Hard to recruit in Smallville Iowa. We lose to the Army all the time- or bigger city units. I get it and have no issues- bigger sacrifice for them and their families in terms of time and money. Not only their families but their patients as well. Problem is when you make O-6 in 6 years and have little understanding of customs and courtesies it makes it touch. When we go TDY or they are deployed it is a crash course in learning.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
Many young doctors join the military and wait for their student loans to be paid off. At this point, they have gained a lot of experience and leave to the civilian sector for astronomically higher pay.
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I'd be surprised if the Army actually does much with this new authority since Congress didn't make it mandatory. It's an organization that institutionally protects the status quo at all costs. It may play on the edges with some direct commissioning of cyber people or such, but I suspect little will change for the basic branch officers, especially the combat arms. The fact is that if you don't move out the majors and LTCs not selected for promotion, there will be a bottleneck where there are no spaces for CPTs and MAJs to move up into. 40 year LTCs? Good luck with that.
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2 Colonels and 4 Lieutenant Colonels have retired in the last year. Some hit their 28th or 30th year of commissioning or didn't get selected to Colonel. The upper or out system is working. I'm becoming a Lieutenant Colonel in August and my mandatory retirement is in 2022. I don't know about the active-duty or the National Guard, but it sure shows a lot of normal attrition in the United States Army Reserve.
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Base Commander PRT Farah gives parade award ceremony 12/25/2008
Flashback to PRT Farah. Christmas Day, 2008
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Her replacement was a destroyer captain at the rank of Commander. I got along very well with Navy personnel. Don't get me wrong, I even went to a bell ceremony where I got to see a petty officer become a chief petty officer. It was often where Army and Navy personnel were calling each other ship mate. So once that Commander left the fob, things became much nicer.
https://youtu.be/1iMtxXdT26A
Her replacement was a destroyer captain at the rank of Commander. I got along very well with Navy personnel. Don't get me wrong, I even went to a bell ceremony where I got to see a petty officer become a chief petty officer. It was often where Army and Navy personnel were calling each other ship mate. So once that Commander left the fob, things became much nicer.
https://youtu.be/1iMtxXdT26A
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Cynthia Croft ... Thank you, Mate. We're doing fine for living in a two story, five bedroom, four bathroom closet!!! Social distancing has sure shrunken everything!!!
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SGT James Murphy
I agree that a lot of people who got promoted never should have had the responsibilities that they had. We had some officers that were taking way too many liberties with enlisted personel. I'd say in almost every post I had. I did notice that the closer to an actual combat zone one got the bigger the mistakes seemed to be. People in charge of YOUR life who had no clue! Extreme combat conditions like Viet Nam actually so something called Fragging take place. I know it's not a popular subject but it Did Happen!
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