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Bringing back the draft. Thoughts?
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Bringing back the draft
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Yea bring back the Draft and draft all these college snowflakes maybe it will help them grow up
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SPC Gordon B Rice ...are you seeing a behavioral health professional?
LTC Eugene Chu
Issue is that some college students may suddenly discover “bone spurs”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/ [login to see] /
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/ [login to see] /
Podiatrist's daughters say bone spur diagnosis that helped Trump avoid Vietnam draft was 'favor'
Elysa Braunstein said her father diagnosed Donald Trump with bones spurs at the height of the Vietnam War as a favor to his landlord, Fred Trump.
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LTC Eugene Chu Biden skated out of service with five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, and later was kept from service because of asthma. Okay...
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CW3 Harvey K.
Sgt (Join to see) - I don't know any details of how educational deferments worked or what changes there were to how it affected an eventual service obligation, but I was in Parris Island with a dozen graduate engineers in my boot platoon. They were all in their late 20's to nearing 35, the age limit for initial military service.
As I understand it, they all had accepted deferments to complete their education, and perhaps gotten further delay as employees of defense contractors.
When the time came to pay the piper for those deferments, and actually serve the time in the military that they had put off for so long, they still had a pretty good deal. They only had to serve 90 days active duty, then they served 6-8 years in the standby reserve, no drill or summer camp, just kept "on the books" until discharged.
Of course they had the worst possible 3 months of active duty -- Marine boot camp.
Semper Fi.
As I understand it, they all had accepted deferments to complete their education, and perhaps gotten further delay as employees of defense contractors.
When the time came to pay the piper for those deferments, and actually serve the time in the military that they had put off for so long, they still had a pretty good deal. They only had to serve 90 days active duty, then they served 6-8 years in the standby reserve, no drill or summer camp, just kept "on the books" until discharged.
Of course they had the worst possible 3 months of active duty -- Marine boot camp.
Semper Fi.
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Worst idea ever from several standpoints. Sounds good on paper- but we have issues with weight and attitude with an all volunteer force. People that come in with eyes wide open and then decide it is not for them- this disenchantment would create leaders following around problem children instead of training and doing their jobs. Everyone thinks this will instill patriotism, work ethic, etc into the younger generation.....doubt it.
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LTC Stephen F. SP5 Mark Kuzinski COL Mikel J. Burroughs SMSgt Lawrence McCarter Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SPC Margaret HigginsMaj Bill Smith, Ph.D. SGT Steve McFarland LTC (Join to see) PO3 Craig Phillips Lt Col Charlie Brown SSG Michael Noll PO1 H Gene Lawrence TSgt Joe C. Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Sgt (Join to see) SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG Donald H "Don" Bates Cpl (Join to see) PVT Mark Zehner
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Maj Marty Hogan
SFC Ralph E Kelley - I seriously used to think this should be something every American should have to do- not the Peace Corps either. Serve your country. I still like the idea, but we have shifted so far to worrying about the 1% and their feelings this would be make military life harder. Now if we could do it and assign problems to menial duties like cleaning interstates and such...sure.
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
I served as a draftee when volunteers were not everywhere. We still had to meet some degree of physical standards. Maybe my eyes were closed to the problems. I have 2 friends who were DIs during that time, one Army and one Marine Corps. Neither has said it was a bad idea. Those that can't qualify should have some form of public service. As to whether or not it will instill patriotism, work ethic that is an open question. There will be mixed results. It will not hurt them, some will improve and some less so. I just believe our young people need to have some skin in the game
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The problem with the Universal Military Training law of my day was that it was not "universal" enough. There were too many exceptions, deferments, etc.
I suspect that many young couples who were married with the motive of the husband "beating the draft", wound up in the misery of divorce.
At the same time, those "draft-dodgers" deprived themselves of a unique experience. Military service isn't just a burden forced upon our youth. It is part of our citizenship duty to our country, and a character building experience for the individual.
I suspect that many young couples who were married with the motive of the husband "beating the draft", wound up in the misery of divorce.
At the same time, those "draft-dodgers" deprived themselves of a unique experience. Military service isn't just a burden forced upon our youth. It is part of our citizenship duty to our country, and a character building experience for the individual.
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Cpl Bernard Bates
During the civil war, If you paid $200 you could buy your way out of the draft. So the rich always had a way out. You could send someone in you place. Their were riots in New York over the draft. Their are always some people trying to get a free ride and it would happen again if we ever go to the draft. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. Semper Fi.
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