Posted on May 5, 2022
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Cpl Vic Burk
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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There is also a hilarious video by a comedian on this. I think he's Irish...
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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That was to freaking funny and truthful brother Cpl Vic Burk
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Maj John Bell
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Foul language is like any spice, in moderation, it flavors just right. Overused, it sours the dish.
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Maj John Bell
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CPT Lawrence Cable - I think one of the major differences between Army culture and Marines culture is the role officers do and don't take in discipline/ass chewing. Generally, that was (might be different now) NCO and SNCO territory, unless there was an immediate danger to life limb, equipment or materiel. Even then it was usually limited to scene stabilization. I served with a great SgtMaj who advised me once that if an officer is not cool, calm and collected at all times, it raises questions as to how he'd react in the middle of a combat crap sandwich.

After that advice, my corrections generally consisted of questions.
"Are you satisfied with that?"
"Did you learn enough to make sure it doesn't happen that way again?
"Will you please explain what you learned and what you should have done/not done?"
and so on.

I hear that particular SgtMaj swear once. Just above a whisper he said to a Sgt, "What the Fuck did you just say?" I have no idea what the Sgt said. The ensuing silence was deafening, immediately followed by a rush of SNCO's to get the offending Sgt out of sight and into figurative body armor, cover and concealment.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT Lawrence Cable
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Maj John Bell - I never saw it to be my job to correct the rank and files unless it was a safety violation thing. As Platoon Leader, tactically the Squad Leaders were mine, but I didn't step in the NCO business, that was the Platoon Sergeants job. OTOH, correcting Junior Officers is the CO's job. While the PSG, 1st SGT or SGM might have a "friendly" conversation with the PL's, I always saw correcting the Lt's as the CO's job.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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CPT Lawrence Cable - Sounds the same. The SgtMaj wasn't correcting me. He was offering some friendly advice and mentorship. In my first FMF assignment the SgtMaj took it very seriously that one of the top things SNCO's should do is guide the junior officers. It was a rare week that Plt Ldrs and Plt Sgt's didn't get an hour or two of time with the Bn CO, SgtMaj and the appropriate 1stSgt each in the field or garrison.

The only time he ever got into tactics was when I asked him about indirect, observed machine gun fire (He was a machine gunner during WWII and Korea) We didn't have our TO/E CWO BN Gunner for about my first year there. And there was nothing other than a cursory reference in the FMFM's. He helped us generate the ballistic tables.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT Lawrence Cable
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Maj John Bell - I was lucky to have decent PSG's and a good First Sergeant. If the First Sergeant didn't think his "mentoring" was getting through, he never had a problem of coming to me and ask me to assist in removing the LT's head from his fourth point of contact. But I never had a problem with telling him that a certain NCO need some more forceful "mentoring", which he was pretty good at also.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Sometimes the smashed thumb feels better after a few @#%*!
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SPC Michael Terrell
SPC Michael Terrell
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I prefer a guttural scream!
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