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The Connecticut Supreme Court on Thursday ruled the state's death penalty is unconstitutional. The deeply divided court's 4-3 ruling will affect the 11 inmates currently on the state's death row.

Lawmakers repealed the state's death penalty in 2012, but stipulated it only applied to future crimes. Plaintiffs in Thursday's case had argued the 2012 ban should also extend to prisoners already on death row.

The Supreme Court agreed to take up the law's prospective issue when it granted a request by Eduardo Santiago, whose death sentence was overturned two months after the repeal took effect. (Connecticut Department of Corrections)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/08/13/death-penalty-connecticut_n_7983488.html
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SGT (Join to see) I believe in it 100%, now we just need to get rid of the red tape that goes along with it!
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SFC (Join to see) - Probably best we wait a bit of time to see if any other material evidences can be found, but it certainly shouldn't last more than a year unless there is evidence to the contrary. Nearly 80 years without a single capital punishment overturn is a very, very high bar.
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MAJ (Join to see) - The time from arrest to end of the trail could take a year or more? This should be sufficient enough time to prove guilt without a doubt. Though I admit 24 hours is a bit quick. My point is ounce found guilty that's it! A speedy execution will deter similar crimes and prevent lawyers from stalling the execution.
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Many will disagree with this but I also feel the execution should be horrific, degrading, and televised. Executions should be used as a frightening deterrent to prevent criminals from looking for publicity and fame.
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SPC Kelley McMahan
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Personally, and I know I am not popular for this opinion, but I like the way the Soviets handled this back in the day. You got a trial, if convicted, the next week the court went through every shred of paperwork on the case verifying there was no oversight errors. If that held up, you got an appeal within 3 days, if the appeal was denied, the guards (usually KGB, the blue epaulets gave them away) They knelt the condemned down in a shower in the back of the courthouse and put a single bullet through the base of their brain stem. End of file. Trial, sentencing, and execution are over and done within six weeks. And this appeal is televised, right along with the condemned escorted out and within two minutes you hear a single gunshot. And then the news commentators give the list of what the conviction was for and what this means for future criminals.
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LTC Stephen F.
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SGT (Join to see) I fully support the death penalty in all capital crimes especially where a human life is extinguished on purpose. Anybody who willfully and purposely kills another human being solely based on their own desires deserves to be executed. In past decades before DNA and other forensic science capabilities had matured some people were apparently wrongly convicted and executed - only God knows the whole truth in those and every other case for that mater.
It is ironic now that now DNA and other forensic science capabilities have matured that there is an effort to eliminate capital punishment.
Talk about a slow judicial process in Connecticut according to the article Eduardo Santiago was convicted in a 2000 murder-for-hire scheme and sentenced in 2012. Victims and accused should be afforded a speedy trial which begins soon after a suspect is apprehended with sufficient evidence to bring to trial. The public's right to know does not trump the privacy of the witnesses, accused, and victims. PO3 Steven Sherrill, SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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That is my logic also LTC Stephen F.. If they clearly committed the crime beyond reasonable doubt, then let the appropriate punishment go quickly.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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Before I start a firestorm, let me say this: The Death Penalty... I get it. However, the Death Penalty does not serve as a deterrent. Otherwise, people would stop doing things to qualify for its consideration. Codex Hammurabi served the Babylonians for slightly over 50-years... Why a First-World nation would embrace its sentiments are... well... beyond me. On the Death Penalty, I would have to put my emotions aside in effort to follow my moral compass. To this, I stand in support of the Connecticut Supreme Court: I'm OK with a convict given the opportunity of a lifetime to reflect on their missteps.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
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You know, MSgt Brian Welch, I was abused/neglected by three 'parents' (including a Stepparent), both of my biological parents were alcoholics; I had rape forced upon me, was homeless for three summers, suffered MST in the Army....and yet I certainly am not committing crimes now....now granted, I have not been sinless in my past, nor sinless in my present. I have committed egregious sins; in my past. And I spent a LONG time repenting to GOD for them. (I reaffirmed my Baptismal vows....and repented after That even....however, us Episcopalians believe that GOD forgives our sins; once we have repented for them.)
Thanks for listening; Brian. Just trying to help others. It has been Very difficult to lay all of this out; knowing that the RP staff and public will see all of this.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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SPC David Payne
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Whoever said that the death penalty was a deterrent? It's society's ONLY guarantee that person will NEVER harm another again. Period.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Of course it is a deterrent. The executed never again commit any crime. Does it deter others? Maybe, but not crimes of passion wherein the perpetrator isn't thinking or acting rationally. The only thing that will deter that criminal is if the intended victim or another law abiding person uses deadly force to stop them.
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Connecticut Rules Death Penalty Is Unconstitutional. How Do You Feel About The Death Penalty?
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My feelings about the formal court sanctioned death penalty executed on a prisoner in custody - while perhaps not to my taste or anyone else's taste because we outlawed public executions because they are distasteful - are whatever the US Supreme Court says is the law of the land. That said, I am not above shooting to kill a rapist or other felony suspect who may be a threat to my family, friends, or colleagues. I would be quiet and discrete if possible - but I would most certainly end their evil career. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
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1LT Sandy Annala, Great response, as I would expect. (-:
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SGM Erik Marquez
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1LT Sandy Annala We do not agree on all that you post, but I do like that we can disagree with respect to each other.
All the better I agree with everything you just posted.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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I believe it should exist, because we have both "monsters under the bed" and "wild dogs" that NEED to be put down.

I also believe that most governments are not trustworthy enough to use it, and the bar should be placed extremely high.

As an example, in states where the Death Penalty is not allowed, allowing it to go to Federal Court will bypass that restriction, and there is something wrong when that happens. A state should actively fight that, merely on "principle."

Additionally, you just cannot undo it. There is no way to fix a mistake. Our government makes mistakes on the Justice side all the time. Organizations like Project Innocence are constantly working to get people out, who we have proof did not commit the crime, yet we have Prosecutors fighting them the entire time, simply because overturning any decision calls into question every other case.

Third, there is the matter of method. We should do it in the most humane way possible. Yes, it's a Death Sentence, but we cannot become the monsters ourselves. It should be quick & painless. My suggestion is Nitrogen Asphyxiation, which takes seconds to minutes, and I believe meets that requirements. This bullet is more for us, than them.

So in essence, yes it should exist. It should be used rarely. We should be 100% sure, because we can't undo it. An example of this would be the Boston Marathon Bomber. That's a "wild dog who needs to be put down" and we have enough evidence to ensure there was NO doubt.
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I figured that Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS. Animals are always killed to ensure it works on humans. I'd rather a rat didn't die than I would a cold hearted killer.
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SPC George Rudenko
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Dollars and sense....  it is still too costly to execute.  Either we streamilne appeals so they can be executed swifrtly, or eliminate it for almost alll....  keep it for treason, terror, mass murder
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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SPC George Rudenko It absolutely should be rare, and only for the most heinous of crimes. As I said "monsters."

As for Cost, my stance is this. We've already decided that they need to be removed from Society "regardless the cost." Once we made that decision, quibbling about how much an execution costs financially is counter to the philosophy of the Sentence in the first place. We are changing a Morale decision into a Financial decision, which in and of itself is wrong. It's either correct to execute them at One Gazillion Dollars, or it's not. Letting a monster stay alive because it's cheaper than the alternative... just shouldn't be a factor in the decision making process.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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You take a life (and not in self defense), then I believe you forfeit yours.
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You got it right MSG (Join to see).
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
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I wasn't going to jump into this question, however, just saw the evening news and the two animals that raped and killed a man's wife and daughter who were on death row just got life sentences as a result of CT court. Since their penalty was before this recent decision, CT should be able to put these two to death!
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MSgt Brian Welch
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Sgt Spencer Sikder I'm with you, and we could go on all day listing the truly evils acts carried out by countless evil people. There's crimes so unspeakable the only action is capital punishment.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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The death penalty is appropriate for the most serious crimes.
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Capt Seid Waddell - I was in Colorado when this happened. I personally think he set up the said e insane thing. He researched on the internet and did the things it said would be considered insane.

Of course, there is some merit in the thinking that anyone who would do such a thing is insane.
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SGT (Join to see), Capt (Join to see), agreed. I would have voted for the death penalty had I been on the jury, but at the same time I am not surprised that he got life instead.
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Capt Seid Waddell, If I remember correctly, I think there was one hold out for death which made it life W/O parole, instantly.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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With evidence and the right circumstances I'm all for it.
Sexually abuse kids or murder someone not in self defense I'm OK with the death penalty.
I'm also all for corporal punishment.
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If it's beyond a reasonable doubt and no other conclusion can be reached, because of unquestionable proof, I'm for it too, SPC David S..
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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SGT (Join to see) - If that was the standard that Juries had to use I would have no objection,
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PO3 John Wagner
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Bet you wouldn't say that if you were,still a Corporal.
Oh, wait I missed,the point.. 20-30 years at hard labor? You bet.
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I have no problem with capital punishment. But where I think it goes wrong is in the application and the appeals process. Application of what drugs, what amounts, and for how long. Just do away with the drugs altogether and go back to hanging, the chair, gas, or shooting. That alleviates one of the biggest arguments in executions. The appeals process is heinous. You can be sentenced to death, but outlive everyone that sent you there, and it's all on my dime? Makes no sense.
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SSG Warren Swan, You realize even with hanging, electric chair, or firing squad, there are years of appeals, as there are with the drugs, which are supposed to be more humane. Everyone of those types of execution have had severe errors which is what started the protests against capital punishment in the first place.
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SSG Warren Swan
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SGT (Join to see) - I do and that's part of the problem. I forgot to mention that while I think the appeals process is too long, it has found some men innocent and saving that one life is worth it. Contradictory I know, but if we're going to condone killing of prisoners, we need to make sure we have the right person.
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I do agree with that 100%. I would hate to be on death row knowing I was innocent and depending on someone, anyone, to help prove I am innocent, and waiting there for years, only to be executed in the end.
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SSG Eddye Royal
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I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.

I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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I posted this in 2015. Almost three years ago. Since then, there has been a brutal murder in my family. One of my sister in law was murdered in her home on Dec.22, 2017. She was shot multiple times, and the only thing taken was her purse and cell phone. My brother in law has been cleared. Our entire family has been cleared, yet the police are no closer to solving this today as they were 90 days ago. My sister in law was a beautiful, caring, mother, grandmother, and I loved her very much. When this POS is caught, he better get the death penalty. Anything else would be criminal in itself. Nobody knows why this beautiful lady was murdered. One of the cops told a friend of mine, who is also a cop, this case may never be solved. My brother in law has put up a $100,000 reward, but nothing yet. None of us feel safe, and won’t until this bastard is caught and convicted. I now carry everywhere I go. My sister in law last year at Easter.
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LTC Stephen C.
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SGT (Join to see), with all the resources that law enforcement has at its fingertips today, it’s almost inconceivable that there would be no evidence, or any clues that would lead them to someone, somewhere. With a $100K reward, it seems almost impossible that someone wouldn’t offer up something!
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I know. You would think something would have happened by now, but it’s been over three months and nothing, LTC Stephen C.. It’s been weird from the start about how it’s been handled.
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Very sorry for your loss...... I do hope they catch the killer.
It is unfortunate that sometimes when there was no intent, no real motive leading to THAT person being killed other than, that who was there that day, and just happenstance person A & B met ...the clues are few and far between. If no physical evidence that can be linked to a suspect were found...the job is even tougher..
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SGM Erik Marquez, That’s the way it happened. Right place-home, wrong time. We think she walked in on someone she might have known, who knew they had a safe and money. Hopefully one day, we’ll find out. Thanks SGM.
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