Posted on Jun 4, 2015
LTC Stephen F.
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I try to give back to the people of this nation as I am able. I used to donate blood regularly; but because I was stationed in Germany in the early 1980's when some beef in military mess halls came from cows with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] I can no longer donate blood because we have become infected with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease." I learned recently that people with HIV can now donate blood - per conversation with Red Cross POC, efforts were funded to come up with a way that HIV positive people can donate blood. That saddened me and made me mad. Bovine spongiform can only be tested through autopsy right now. Many of those of us who served in Europe during the latter part of the cold war have not been able to donate blood. I hope that NIH will make in a priority and obtain funding to develop ways to test for bovine spongiform in people through a blood test.
[Note: I updated the question from "veterans" to "Veterans and service members" on June 6, 2015 - 71st anniversary of D Day - Operation Overlord]

[update May 18, 2018] As of 2017, worldwide 230 people, roughly 180 in the UK have been infected with vCJD and 4 people in the USA have been infected.

Mad Cow and VCJD are nervous system diseases which are based on diseased prions [not the car]. Diseased prions binds to proteins and converts them to prions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxojz6grwcU

Thanks to 1SG (Join to see) for alerting me that "there is progress in the development of methods to detect misfolded proteins in the bloodstream" I did research and found the following at an NIH site.
As this article informs us there has been progress in control groups testing of "developed blood tests to detect prion." The article states that there are plans to "validate their methods using larger samples sizes."
Hopefully this process will be successful to detect whether or not we have been infected by Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease."


"Prion diseases are a group of rare, fatal brain diseases that affect animals and humans. They are caused by normally harmless proteins that become abnormal and form clumps in the brain. One form, called variant CJD (vCJD), is associated with eating meat from cattle infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy, commonly known as “mad cow” disease.

People may have vCJD for years before symptoms—such as depression, hallucinations, moving difficulties, and dementia—appear. These “silent” carriers have small amounts of prions in their bloodstreams and can transmit the disease to others via blood transfusions. The only current method to diagnose vCJD is to perform a biopsy or a postmortem analysis of brain tissue. Thus, a noninvasive test to detect prions in blood is a medical priority.

Two research groups recently developed blood tests to detect prions. The results appeared in a pair of papers published on December 21, 2016, in Science Translational Medicine. One of the groups, led by Dr. Claudio Soto of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), and National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).

Prions are scarce in the bloodstream and difficult to measure. Both teams developed methods to amplify the prions in blood samples using a technique called protein misfolding cyclic amplification (PMCA). PMCA relies on the characteristic nature of prions to cause certain healthy proteins to clump abnormally and convert into prions.

Soto’s group first combined healthy proteins with known concentrations of infectious vCJD prions. They intermittently agitated these mixtures with sound waves. The agitation helped break the prions into smaller chunks. This increased the number of prions that could then convert healthy proteins into prions. Using this method, the scientists were able to detect more than a billion-fold dilution of prions using an anti-prion antibody.

The scientists next tested whether the technique could be used to detect prions in blood samples from 14 people with vCJD and 153 controls. The controls included healthy people as well as people with different neurological or neurodegenerative disorders, including sporadic CJD, the most common form of CJD. The assay flagged all the vCJD samples correctly.

In the second paper, a French research group described a similar approach testing a blinded panel of blood samples. That team identified 18 vCJD patients in a group of 256 samples.

“Our findings, which need to be confirmed in further studies, suggest that our method of detection could be useful for the noninvasive diagnosis of this disease in pre-symptomatic individuals,” Soto says. Early diagnosis would allow potential therapies to be tested before substantial brain damage occurred. This technique would also allow blood contaminated with prions to be detected and removed from the blood supply.

Both teams are now working to validate their methods using larger samples sizes.
―by Anita Ramanathan
nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-method-accurately-detects-prions-blood



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CAPT Kevin B.
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I got tangled with some nasty Malaria in the high side of Cambodia that the doxy/primi stuff wasn't cutting that strain too well. My liver enzymes were messed up for some time hence was off of the donation wagon for 3 years.
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SFC Jeff Gurchinoff
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Yes Sir, never met a cow that was even slightly irritated when I was in Germany, but still I cannot donate blood....
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LTC Stephen F.
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Welcome to the angry cow brigade, SFC Jeff Gurchinoff, perhaps chick-fil-a may hire us for the Eat More chicken commercials.
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SSG(P) Recruiter
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I can't donate because I am anemic. And even though I take iron supplements and my levels are normal, they still won't let me.
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LTC Stephen F.
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I am sorry to learn that SSG(P) (Join to see).
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It's okay. It's just sad because I am O positive and I can virtually donate to most blood types.
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SFC Jeff Gurchinoff
SFC Jeff Gurchinoff
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Me too O+ and I can't donate because of a stupid mad cow rule that has NO substantiated evidence to support it
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holy crap I didn't know that I'm infected too who knew
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LTC Stephen F.
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Well SPC (Join to see), unfortunately welcome to the club. Earlier I had sent out a post to many of the potential Mad Cows that we could form a angry cow brigade for chick-fil-a.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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SPC (Join to see) If You Served in Europe Mid 80's Tag Your It and Not in a Good Way.
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CPT Bruce Beattie
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On one of my first dates with my first wife we gave blood to the ARC. I gave blood on a semi-regular basis until I wound up with an ICD following a successful resuscitation following a cardiac arrest at 49 y/o. ( Thank you Agent Orange) My second wife continued to give blood until her medical conditions precluded it at 58 y/o. Yes it sucks not to be able to donate. No, I have not counted the little gold pins the ARC gave for each gallon. The military gave no pins but, we gave troops the rest of the day off. ( You old guys like me will also remember the shot of whiskey as well!) Be proud of what you were once able to do but, please let the Hemotologists err on the side of safety! :)
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SGT Kristjan Rahe
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Like you sor, I was stationed in Germany during the 1980s. The alleged threat of bovine spongiform encephalopathy is questionable in my book. Prior to my time in Germany I was a devout donor, 1 gallon +. Now I know that there are this with Gulf War Syndrome that are denied also, and I guess I would be denied due to exposure to PCBs, rtc at Ft. McClellan. I hate it as I believe in the need. Wish we could get more direct answers
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SPC Chris Early
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What about plasma, are you allowed to donate.
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LTC Stephen F.
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SPC Chris Early, Unfortunately the Red Cross will not accept any blood from me. Based on the responses from some of those on active duty,CW3 (Join to see), and those who deployed from the Reserve Components, SFC (Join to see), the Military may allow people exposed to food-borne disease if you are disease free for a number of years.
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PO1 John Miller
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I was told once that because I was stationed in England during a Hoof and Mouth disease scare that I couldn't donate blood. But when I was stationed in Hawaii we were doing a blood drive and I spoke with the Army medics running the thing. They allowed me to donate blood.

So it may be worth asking the Red Cross if that's still policy for your case.
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LTC Stephen F.
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PO1 John Miller, I am glad that the Red Cross policy worked out well for you. A couple months ago the Red Cross POC told me there is no end date for my restriction to donate blood based on my potential exposure to Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE). She informed me that HIV had a higher priority for research so "they" developed a screening method for HIV and have been allowing HIV positive people to donate blood since that point.
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SSG(P) D. Wright Downs
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i am wondering if there will be any research regarding the Mad Cow. I have organ donor on my license but know my organs can't be used since my blood can't be used. They originly just kept me from donating blood due to a medical problem.
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TSgt David L.
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I used to donate all the time but I'm a mad cow, you see?! LOL
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LTC Stephen F.
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Moo back at you TSgt David L.. Maybe we can become part of Chick-fil-a's "Eat more Chicken" campaign as an angry cow brigade.
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TSgt David L.
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LOL That's not a bad idea, LTC Stephen F.! That could be an advertising angle for them.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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Mad Cow and before I went there I was a two-gallon blood donor. They need to figure this out. Germany 81-84 TDY 1977, Frankfurt,
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LTC Stephen F.
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I certainly concur SSgt (Join to see). I still have an old blood donor card which I have not been able to add to since the late 1980's.
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