Posted on Sep 11, 2016
How would you react if someone showed up to a uniform inspection with a ribbon rack like this?
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Edited 9 y ago
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Since its a Navy guy I'd toss him off the boat. I'd aim for a spot without any rocks or docks or whatever you guys call all that crap.
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SFC Joseph Weber
PO1 Richard Cormier - Ok, just giving you a hard time swabbie. My grandfather was in the Navy during world War One, My Dad worked at the Washington Navy Yard and Pearl Harbor as I was growing up for twenty years though he was Army during World War Two. Lived in Annapolis for five years. My Cousin graduated from the Naval Academy. I might have joined the Navy but at 6'6" I figured I'd be smacking my head on pipes all the time.
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SFC Joseph Weber - PO1 Richard Cormier - I think that is the patch that an undesignated seaman wears. I believe this is the uniform of a female undes sailor.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/chapter4/Pages/4221.aspx
See section 4224
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/chapter4/Pages/4221.aspx
See section 4224
Part 2: E-1 to E-6 Rate Insignia
a. Rating badges consist of a perched eagle with expanded wings pointing upward and its head facing right. Chevrons, indicating the wearer's rate, and a specialty mark indicating rating is part of the badge.Chevrons on rating badges for men, E-4 through E-6, measure 3-1/4 inches wide. Chevrons on women's rating badges measure 2-1/2 inches wide and their rating insignia is 3/4 the size of men's. Women wearing the men's peacoat will use the...
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SFC Joseph Weber
PO1 (Join to see) - PO1 Richard Cormier I was mostly enjoying the site of the individual flying off the side of a boat I had in my head.
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PO1 John Miller
PO1 Richard Cormier
It's a female Service Dress Blue uniform, and the Anchor means the owner is non-designated and attended Seamen Apprenticeship Training after Boot Camp, and is assigned to Deck Division (a "Deck Ape").
I know this for a fact because I was a Deck Ape myself for 2 years.
It's a female Service Dress Blue uniform, and the Anchor means the owner is non-designated and attended Seamen Apprenticeship Training after Boot Camp, and is assigned to Deck Division (a "Deck Ape").
I know this for a fact because I was a Deck Ape myself for 2 years.
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I would have said, "Great job, Seeeaaaman Schmedlapppp! You managed to get all those ribbons with all those sharp pins on without killing yourself from a massive loss of blood. I'm proud of you, son. Now I want you and everyone in your leadership chain in your Division to fall out of my formation and double time back to your rack. When you get there you are all gonna square away your yooouuuuneeeform then you're aaaalllll gonna reeeepoooort to my office post haste to show me you got it done right. Then we're all gonna have a little chat. How does that sound to you, Schmedlapppp? Good - FALL OUT!"
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Pull them aside and tell them they need to have a better ribbon rack; ask them questions if they have a way to get a proper ribbon rack; if they don't, I would give them an old ribbon rack of mine (like one that would have 4 areas for 4 ribbons). I would also explain to them that this is unacceptable and provide the instruction on how the ribbons should be placed on the uniform (in this case, female service dress blues).
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Perhaps this was a new check in and someone was messing with her.. Other than that, I imagine someone did this on purpose for the reaction value. It's hard to imagine someone could be this jacked up.. but then again, I have been surprised before.
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LTJG (Join to see) - You know it's possible for someone to be hazed like this but there are people out there who don't care. And if I ran into this Sailor, I wouldn't have been the only one who said something to her.
A reservist just this past weekend had crows on his collar but no rank device on his cover. I asked him and he said that because it was given the wrong rank (E5 instead of E4). I told him, that usually you would not be permitted to wear the cover because it wouldn't be uniform. Either you have to get it correct or remove the crows and demote yourself.
But the reserves are a different animal all together.
A reservist just this past weekend had crows on his collar but no rank device on his cover. I asked him and he said that because it was given the wrong rank (E5 instead of E4). I told him, that usually you would not be permitted to wear the cover because it wouldn't be uniform. Either you have to get it correct or remove the crows and demote yourself.
But the reserves are a different animal all together.
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In the Old Marine Corps, it would probably get him 5 days puss and punk. That's in the brig on bread & water to you newbies!
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PO1 Richard Cormier
Kinda tough on the "teenie bopper aren't we sir? This is NOT a Military uniform. Either ROTC (doubtful) or Scouting.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
PO1 Richard Cormier - (J)ROTC has gold buttons (or did when I went through). I'd assume Scouting.
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PO1 Richard Cormier again. That is an active duty uniform, with an active duty insignia, and active duty ribbons.
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PO1 Richard Cormier - That's a female dress blue jacket with an undesignated seaman insignia.
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I sincerely don't believe this would have ever happened in the units I served.
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WTH! Get the service member and his first line leader, state the obvious. Then have that FLL ASSIST that member in 15 minutes and re-inspect. Counsel both!
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By the way, a little comic relief. Perhaps this sailor thinks there is only one definition of a rack-- a place to sleep!
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LTJG (Join to see) - My dad and uncles told Marine jokes as sailors and into old age. As an Army vet it is only natural that I tell Navy jokes! My dad's brother was a Marine by the way!
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I'd probably get chewed out for laughing. We had a guy come in during A school with the craziest bowl cut that his wife did. When asked who his room mate was(it was I), I almost got chewed out for allowing him to leave like that. I told them that he hasn't been in his room for months now because he was living with his wife off base.
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LTJG (Join to see)
I was class leader of my C school. Had a Sailor show up to graduation 45 minutes late in the wrong uniform, with the wrong rating badge.. Chief lost her mind before I could.
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I assume this is an active duty individual.
First I would ask them to remove their jacket so as to make no further embarrassment. I would then recommend that they go to the NX (in this case, or the PX/BX) to get the proper ribbons and medals and preferably the rack to put them on, and then on to their residence to get squared away.
A short conversation to find out their unit of employment and supervisors name and a phone call follow-up should be enough.
First I would ask them to remove their jacket so as to make no further embarrassment. I would then recommend that they go to the NX (in this case, or the PX/BX) to get the proper ribbons and medals and preferably the rack to put them on, and then on to their residence to get squared away.
A short conversation to find out their unit of employment and supervisors name and a phone call follow-up should be enough.
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PO1 Richard Cormier - Negative. The Anchor rating insignia is a real thing. Not ROTC. Also, ROTC has different ribbons - they would not be authorized to wear the four you see on that uniform. And you're right - I don't believe ribbons go on that uniform item. I wonder if someone was messing with her.. I honest can't tell if this is an extreme case of stupid, or someone posted this for the reaction.
-Ribbons don't go on that uniform.
-Ribbons should be on a single rack.
-Ribbons should be in a row of 4.
-Ribbons in the wrong order.
-Ribbons don't go on that uniform.
-Ribbons should be on a single rack.
-Ribbons should be in a row of 4.
-Ribbons in the wrong order.
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PO1 Richard Cormier
LTJG (Join to see) - If you say so. I never saw a SR, SA, or SN with that device. The jacket is definitely female (buttons on left side). Strikers could wear the RED, Black, or Green stripes showing they were FN, SN, or AN. If accepted, they would wear the device for the rate they were striking for (BT, BM, AT, etc...)
Guess I don't know what it is about the "New" Navy with the Blueberries, and the "Almost a Marine" uniforms.
Guess I don't know what it is about the "New" Navy with the Blueberries, and the "Almost a Marine" uniforms.
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TSgt David L.
PO1 Richard Cormier - Despite my assumption or the individual's status, or whether of not it is a "what if", the question is what would you do. It has to be fake and has to be Navy. No ex-AF individual would be that un-squared away. LOL
I stated my "what if" as I would consider dealing with and it stands. It still has to be a joke.
I stated my "what if" as I would consider dealing with and it stands. It still has to be a joke.
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LTJG (Join to see) - Usually if a seaman (SR,SA,SN) has just an anchor (like shows above) as their rating badge it's usually a Undesignated Seaman. I don't know anything bout the ROTC aspects (yet) so I don't know if they use the same patches or not. A Undesignated seaman (meaning they didn't chose a rate) have to what is called striking to the rate they want to be. They are understudies of petty officers (usually) and after having OJT, they have to apply for an A-school. Once accepted, they are put on TAD orders and sent to their rating A school. It's not like a "boom-boom-boom" thing, it does take some time. An "UnDes" was wanting to strike for IT school, after waiting almost 6-9 months she got a seat in the A-School. She did get denied at one point, but was accepted in the end.
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I once had an staff sergeant working for me that I was doing a counseling session for something completely unrelated to his uniform. This was during the time air force had to wear their blues once a week. I was the NCOIC but also had the section chief in the room with me. As I'm looking over this SSgt's blues I notice the following issues: 1. Ribbons out of precedence. 2. Collar on his shirt so tight his face was bright red (long sleeve shirt so had to wear a tie). 3. Buttons on shirt about to pop. 4. Pants were not hemmed, they were rolled under. 5. Chloroframs were scuffed and unserviceable. We were in England and the closest clothing sales was at Lakenheath, about 45 minutes away. At lunch I dismissed the NCO with explicit instructions he was to go to Lakenheath and get every item needed to bring his uniform back up to inspection level because the next week we would have the first sergeant do a uniform inspection in full service dress. And he had to present the receipt to either myself or the section chief as well as the receipt from alterations. He got another piece of paperwork and presented us the receipts and passed that next uniform inspection. That meme must have been what my section chief and I looked like after that original counseling session.
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Had a spc go home on leave in late80's and became a PX hero 6row rack very impressive but nothing to do with him came back to his unit and left his locker open and the 1st Sgt did room inspection saw the uniform called the CSM he came out to Fort Greely in January from Fort Wainwright. He wasn't happy long story short guy ended up with a field grade AR15.
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PO2 George Martin:
"My GOSH!" "STRAIGHTEN that ribbon rack, PLEASE! Here, let me help you.
Margaret C Higgins US Army (Ret)
"My GOSH!" "STRAIGHTEN that ribbon rack, PLEASE! Here, let me help you.
Margaret C Higgins US Army (Ret)
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If this is a cadet, why is she wearing the NDSR? I believe the award requires to be active duty or active reserve during the specified time period.
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