Posted on Jan 12, 2018
Sailors must 'be able to handle fatigue,' top admiral says
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I think that in war, sleep deprivation can happen and will happen. However, I do think there needs to be a minimum amount of sleep so that these sailors can affectively perform their job duties. What are your thoughts on this?
Sailors must 'be able to handle fatigue,' top admiral says
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all these recent accidents point to fatigue and lack of sleep as the reason for these accidents I have read on opinion online that lack of sleep caused this Petty officer to hallucinate on the bridge. I guess the Navy needs to have the same caffeinated gum that soldiers use on patrol to stay awake and keep alert.
Sailors should work out more. Not smoke at all and stay in shape for the occasional long shift.
The Admiral needs to authorize this to keep sailors from losing focus and maintaining situational awareness.
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas MAJ David Potter PO1 John Miller 1LT Sandy Annala LT Brad McInnis SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL CSM Charles Hayden 1SG Dennis Hicks
Capt Dwayne Conyers COL Mikel J. Burroughs SPC David S.
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Sailors should work out more. Not smoke at all and stay in shape for the occasional long shift.
The Admiral needs to authorize this to keep sailors from losing focus and maintaining situational awareness.
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas MAJ David Potter PO1 John Miller 1LT Sandy Annala LT Brad McInnis SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL CSM Charles Hayden 1SG Dennis Hicks
Capt Dwayne Conyers COL Mikel J. Burroughs SPC David S.
LTC Stephen F. LTC Stephen C.
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TSgt David L.
I was thinking the same thing about all of the ship crashing incidents, LTC (Join to see). Maybe that is part of the problem.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
LTC (Join to see) - Well Sir it is the Navy and their dating habits have been questioned :)
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We who have served many tours of duty have generally been trained on the signs of fatigue SSG(P) (Join to see). Generally we operate in teams and units where one can pick up the slack when somebody is fatigued.
Cross-country truckers, aircraft pilots all have standards of rest between missions. In makes sense for sailors to watch each other and step up to let somebody rest who is fatigued instead of risking unnecessary danger.
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Cross-country truckers, aircraft pilots all have standards of rest between missions. In makes sense for sailors to watch each other and step up to let somebody rest who is fatigued instead of risking unnecessary danger.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert George SP5 Robert Ruck SCPO Morris RamseyCPL Eric Escasio SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright SPC Margaret Higgins Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM SGT Gregory Lawritson
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My kind of Admiral. Make him CNO, he understands that tempo of operations, peacetime or combat, doesn’t guarantee rest. If you can’t handle it now, can you in combat where crew members could be lost. Time out?
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CDR Dan Cunningham
I'm with you and the Admiral on this one, but have a few concerns. We've become too reluctant to refuse to qualify people for the important watches (specifically OOD U/W)). Nothing irked me more than having to fill out a watch-bill knowing that LTjg Schmotz could only stand OOD during daylight hours, LT Snerdly could only stand OOD if we were in the middle of the ocean steaming independently, etc.
This results in the two or three truly competent OODs constantly getting the tough evolutions and night-time watches.
Secondly, we let underway training take a back seat over the years. Back when I was a Dept Head, my peers had experience in actual towing operations, had moored to a buoy, been in plane guard, set up an unrep, conned through multiple DIVTACS, etc. When I was an XO, none of the Dept Heads had even witnessed most of those evolutions.
As a SWO, it's sad to admit my best CO was an aviator on the CVN. At night we could do anything we wanted to in our box and we took advantage of it. We knew exactly how the ship would react given any combination of engine and rudder orders, we practiced shifting control to aft steering multiple times per watch, perfected 'closing the barn doors' rudder orders, we timed and measured our turn radius, learned how many degrees/min we'd turn with different rudder angles and how to turn quickly without heeling more than 3 degrees. It was a shock when I got to the 'greyhound and tin can Navy' and night steaming involved going to the four points of a box and having to call the CO five minutes prior to turning toward the next point. Nobody learns anything doing that.
This results in the two or three truly competent OODs constantly getting the tough evolutions and night-time watches.
Secondly, we let underway training take a back seat over the years. Back when I was a Dept Head, my peers had experience in actual towing operations, had moored to a buoy, been in plane guard, set up an unrep, conned through multiple DIVTACS, etc. When I was an XO, none of the Dept Heads had even witnessed most of those evolutions.
As a SWO, it's sad to admit my best CO was an aviator on the CVN. At night we could do anything we wanted to in our box and we took advantage of it. We knew exactly how the ship would react given any combination of engine and rudder orders, we practiced shifting control to aft steering multiple times per watch, perfected 'closing the barn doors' rudder orders, we timed and measured our turn radius, learned how many degrees/min we'd turn with different rudder angles and how to turn quickly without heeling more than 3 degrees. It was a shock when I got to the 'greyhound and tin can Navy' and night steaming involved going to the four points of a box and having to call the CO five minutes prior to turning toward the next point. Nobody learns anything doing that.
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MCPO Roger Collins
What happened to ORI/OREs? We had periodic Operational Readiness Inspections by the Squadron, COs could lose their job if their ship/ sub failed badly. Things sure have changed.
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