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http://www.pjtv.com/series/poll-position-with-john-philips-821/poll-the-other-s-word-socialism-11849/
I didn't sign up to defend socialism. Did you? Now this isn't an invitation to attack or defend socialism. It's merely an opportunity to learn where we all stand.
Fortunately, the linked video opens with a definition of socialism for those (like Bernie Sanders) who don't know what it is.
I didn't sign up to defend socialism. Did you? Now this isn't an invitation to attack or defend socialism. It's merely an opportunity to learn where we all stand.
Fortunately, the linked video opens with a definition of socialism for those (like Bernie Sanders) who don't know what it is.
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No CPT Jack Durish I have never embraced socialism and I never will. Many of my cousins live in the United Kingdom which has embraced socialism in many respects.
In the 1960's many liberals looked to socialism as a panacea for all of humanities troubles. Many of those radicals got involved in politics and some have risen to the top of the democratic party. I hope that a significant number of people who voted for hope and change in 2008 are now much wiser and will not vote for anything that smells of socialism.
In the 1960's many liberals looked to socialism as a panacea for all of humanities troubles. Many of those radicals got involved in politics and some have risen to the top of the democratic party. I hope that a significant number of people who voted for hope and change in 2008 are now much wiser and will not vote for anything that smells of socialism.
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Capt Tom Brown
Socialists have had since 1775 or so to implement their system and haven't gotten it done yet. Democrats and liberals have always been closet socialists to one degree or another and were usually counterbalanced by conservatives. Even full scale government run welfare programs during the depression were not kept in place once capitalism got going again with 'regulations' to control it. People looking for all the free stuff are going to have to pay. As to the question at hand I signed up to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the US. I am not sure if the Constitution specifies just what form of economic system we will or should have tho.
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CPT Jack Durish
Capt Tom Brown - I could be wrong but I don't believe that the Democrats were socialist, closet or otherwise, even up to Truman and JFK or LBJ. However, when the DNC began building the "Rainbow Coalition" they made room for everyone to build numbers without discriminating about anyone's ideology. This is why I'm somewhat surprised to see the numbers presented in this video wherein socialism has so widely captured the majority of Democrats in a span of less than 50 years
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I recall swearing an oath, on multiple occasions, to support and defend the Constitution.
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SSG Gerhard S.
I would added that there is little that could be construed as Socialist in our Constitution.
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Buena Vista Social Club - Hasta Siempre - Comandante Che Guevara
Buena Vista Social Club - Hasta Siempre - Comandante Che Guevara
Probably because it didn't exist yet. I was a soldier I did my duty. In my Army you didn't even have to want to be there, they would come get you. If you want to pretend you can pick and choose forget it https://youtu.be/JcPm5Rn36Kw
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Sgt Vance Bonds
My father joined the service to kill Fascist and Socialist in Europe. Now we have them playing word games and trying (being) elected here. I think it's repulsive and disgraceful. I joined to protect and defend the constiution. By doing that, I, we , you protected our way of life, our families and communities.
We are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democratic Socialist State.
We are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democratic Socialist State.
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Former Soviet Chess Champ Who’s Now an Advocate for Capitalism Has Some Pointed Words for Sanders and His ‘Socialist Policies’
Mar. 11, 2016 4:46pm Kathryn Blackhurst
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Garry Kasparov published a piece in the Daily Beast on Thursday in which he offered a follow-up to his Facebook status criticizing the socialism supported by Democratic presidential candidate Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders that went viral last week.
Kasparov, a Russian chess grandmaster and chairman of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation, garnered widespread social media attention after he published a Facebook post March 1 in which he stated that he was “enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means!”
“In practice, [socialism] corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty,” Kasparov wrote on Facebook. “Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.”
The original 113-word Facebook post has since been shared more than 58,000 times and garnered in excess of 3,000 comments and had a reach of 9.3 million, as Kasparov noted in his Daily Beast follow-up piece, much to his surprise.
“My goal was to remind people that Americans talking about socialism in the 21st century was a luxury paid for by the successes of capitalism in the 20th. And that while inequality is a huge problem, the best way to increase everyone’s share of pie is to make the pie bigger, not to dismantle the bakery,” Kasparov wrote as he discussed why he felt his original post resonated so deeply with many Americans. “There is a growing consensus that America has deep troubles, and no one can agree on solutions.”
Kasparov went on to discuss the need to restore a vision of America as a “positive force in the world” for “liberty and peace” following what he described as storyline flip in the decades since the Cold War ended.
“The essential complement to this is having big positive dreams at home as well, of restoring America’s belief in ambition and risk, of innovation and exploration, of free markets and free people. America transformed the 20th century in its image with its unparalleled success. American technology created the modern world while American culture infused it and American values inspired it,” Kasparov wrote, adding that in recent decades, American complacency has led to “slower growth, stagnant wages, and the steady shift of wealth from labor to capital. In such situations many people turn to the government for help and the siren song of socialism grows louder.”
Although he admitted that he liked and respected Sanders as a person, Kasparov firmly opposed his idea of a socialistic vision for America.
“The problem is with the proposed solutions. A society that relies too heavily on redistributing wealth eventually runs out of wealth to redistribute. The historical record is clear. It’s capitalism that brought billions of people out of poverty in the 20th century. It’s socialism that enslaved them and impoverished them,” Kasparov wrote. “Of course Senator Sanders does not want to turn America into a totalitarian state like the one I grew up in. But it’s a valuable example of the inevitable failure of a state-run economy and distribution system. Once you give power to the government it is nearly impossible to get it back, and it will be used in ways you cannot expect.”
Kasparov also added, “To give credit, Senator Sanders supports breaking up the giant banking institutions that dominate American finance and politics in a way that would evoke jealousy from John Pierpont Morgan himself. However, Sanders’s socialist policies would replace banks that are too big to fail with a government that is too big to succeed.”
Ultimately, Kasparov championed the American free market with its innovation and hard-work ethic as the solution to the country’s troubles.
“Yes, the free market can be cruel and it is by definition unequal. It has winners and losers. It also sparks the spirit of creativity that humanity desperately needs to flourish in our ever-increasing billions. Failure is an essential part of innovation and the free market,” Kasparov stated. “The government does have a role in addressing rising inequality. I turn not to Denmark or Venezuela or, god forbid, to the Soviet Union. Instead let us look to the last great battle between labor and capital in America, between public and private power.
Mar. 11, 2016 4:46pm Kathryn Blackhurst
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Garry Kasparov published a piece in the Daily Beast on Thursday in which he offered a follow-up to his Facebook status criticizing the socialism supported by Democratic presidential candidate Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders that went viral last week.
Kasparov, a Russian chess grandmaster and chairman of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation, garnered widespread social media attention after he published a Facebook post March 1 in which he stated that he was “enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means!”
“In practice, [socialism] corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty,” Kasparov wrote on Facebook. “Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.”
The original 113-word Facebook post has since been shared more than 58,000 times and garnered in excess of 3,000 comments and had a reach of 9.3 million, as Kasparov noted in his Daily Beast follow-up piece, much to his surprise.
“My goal was to remind people that Americans talking about socialism in the 21st century was a luxury paid for by the successes of capitalism in the 20th. And that while inequality is a huge problem, the best way to increase everyone’s share of pie is to make the pie bigger, not to dismantle the bakery,” Kasparov wrote as he discussed why he felt his original post resonated so deeply with many Americans. “There is a growing consensus that America has deep troubles, and no one can agree on solutions.”
Kasparov went on to discuss the need to restore a vision of America as a “positive force in the world” for “liberty and peace” following what he described as storyline flip in the decades since the Cold War ended.
“The essential complement to this is having big positive dreams at home as well, of restoring America’s belief in ambition and risk, of innovation and exploration, of free markets and free people. America transformed the 20th century in its image with its unparalleled success. American technology created the modern world while American culture infused it and American values inspired it,” Kasparov wrote, adding that in recent decades, American complacency has led to “slower growth, stagnant wages, and the steady shift of wealth from labor to capital. In such situations many people turn to the government for help and the siren song of socialism grows louder.”
Although he admitted that he liked and respected Sanders as a person, Kasparov firmly opposed his idea of a socialistic vision for America.
“The problem is with the proposed solutions. A society that relies too heavily on redistributing wealth eventually runs out of wealth to redistribute. The historical record is clear. It’s capitalism that brought billions of people out of poverty in the 20th century. It’s socialism that enslaved them and impoverished them,” Kasparov wrote. “Of course Senator Sanders does not want to turn America into a totalitarian state like the one I grew up in. But it’s a valuable example of the inevitable failure of a state-run economy and distribution system. Once you give power to the government it is nearly impossible to get it back, and it will be used in ways you cannot expect.”
Kasparov also added, “To give credit, Senator Sanders supports breaking up the giant banking institutions that dominate American finance and politics in a way that would evoke jealousy from John Pierpont Morgan himself. However, Sanders’s socialist policies would replace banks that are too big to fail with a government that is too big to succeed.”
Ultimately, Kasparov championed the American free market with its innovation and hard-work ethic as the solution to the country’s troubles.
“Yes, the free market can be cruel and it is by definition unequal. It has winners and losers. It also sparks the spirit of creativity that humanity desperately needs to flourish in our ever-increasing billions. Failure is an essential part of innovation and the free market,” Kasparov stated. “The government does have a role in addressing rising inequality. I turn not to Denmark or Venezuela or, god forbid, to the Soviet Union. Instead let us look to the last great battle between labor and capital in America, between public and private power.
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Capt Tom Brown
This is a super piece which really gets to the heart of the matter and is pretty sophisticated to get one's arms around - as there is more to it than simply advocating free college, free medical care, free this and that as per the Swedish, Danish or Venezuelan examples. I can appreciate what he explains when reading, but am unable to really retain and understand it quite deeply enough to expound on the subject such as the author. He has a better understanding of both socialism and capitalism than many average American citizens, including me. Coming from a Russian it should cause folks to stop and consider what's behind the free giveaways alluded to by Uncle Bernie appealing to the base. Would you happen to recall the link to the original article in the DB??
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LTC Stephen Conway
ESA loca of socialism and climate communism.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-floats-70-percent-tax-on-top-earners-to-fund-green-new-deal
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-floats-70-percent-tax-on-top-earners-to-fund-green-new-deal
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez floats 70 percent tax on top earners to fund Green New Deal
Rising Democratic star Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said in a new interview that she could fund her proposed "Green New Deal" in part by slapping a tax as high as 70 percent ontop earners.
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Last time I checked, I didn't sign up to defend any specific ideology. I swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States... It didn't matter what President was in office at the time, nor does it matter now. I wanted to serve my country and defend the freedoms protected within the Constitution.
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CPT Jack Durish
Well, I hope you can reconcile your oath with whichever socialist is elected. I'm glad I don't have to make that choice
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PO1 Kerry French
To support and DEFEND the Constitution of the Untied States... not the United Nations.
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