Posted on Jun 27, 2015
Millions of Americans still embrace the Confederate flag. Should we dismiss them all as racists?
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After the horrific, racially motivated massacre last week of nine black Bible study participants at a church in Charleston, South Carolina, there has been a righteous rush to remove the Confederate flag from government property and the goods of many national retailers. And it seems we've reached a landmark tipping point: After decades of defending the Confederate flag, many conservative lawmakers have publicly and aggressively joined the fight against this longtime symbol of the South.
However, there are still millions of Americans in the South who (probably quietly, these days) remain deeply invested in the Confederate flag. I am not one of them. But I do believe their concerns and beliefs are worth considering without dismissing them wholesale as a bunch of backwards racists, as much of the American left seems eager to do.
Some defenders of the flag worry about a slippery slope. They oppose its removal from state capitols and insignias because they think there's no logical stopping point.
First came the calls to take down the Confederate flags flying over state property. Then Virginia moved to scrap a small license plate program for the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Before long, private companies said they would discontinue selling Confederate-themed products. Now everything from roads to statutes commemorating Confederate figures could wind up on the chopping block.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/millions-of-americans-still-embrace-the-confederate-flag-dont-dismiss-them-all-as-racists/ar-AAc9zqW
However, there are still millions of Americans in the South who (probably quietly, these days) remain deeply invested in the Confederate flag. I am not one of them. But I do believe their concerns and beliefs are worth considering without dismissing them wholesale as a bunch of backwards racists, as much of the American left seems eager to do.
Some defenders of the flag worry about a slippery slope. They oppose its removal from state capitols and insignias because they think there's no logical stopping point.
First came the calls to take down the Confederate flags flying over state property. Then Virginia moved to scrap a small license plate program for the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Before long, private companies said they would discontinue selling Confederate-themed products. Now everything from roads to statutes commemorating Confederate figures could wind up on the chopping block.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/millions-of-americans-still-embrace-the-confederate-flag-dont-dismiss-them-all-as-racists/ar-AAc9zqW
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Banning the flag is a media driven, knee jerk reaction bandwagon that everyone is jumping on in order to maintain a façade of political correctness - whatever that means.
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Capt Jeff S.
How well do you know your history? What caused the South to want to secede? Did the South have a right to secede? Was Honest Abe as honest as portrayed in the history books or did he shred the Constitution to go to war against the South so he could preserve the Union? Was John Wilkes Booth a patriot or treasonous scum? What was his motivation for assasinating Lincoln?
Before you go calling those in the Confederate Army treasonous scum, understand that New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Vermont were also slave states at one time. At the start of the Civil War, four states in the North were still slave states and when Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation, he only freed the slaves in the South. Slavery still existed in the North for the duration of the Civil War and Delaware was the last state to officially get rid of slavery... in 1901!
Lincoln made slavery an issue to get elected. It had fallen out of favor in Europe and the U.S. was following suit. The North was quicker to give up slavery because its economy was not as agrarian and its industry was able to operate without unskilled slave labor. Lincoln wanted to free the slaves, yes, but he also believed that the country would have fewer problems if it simply got rid of them and he had intentions of deporting them to Africa, as well as the Caribbean and South America (where the majority of slaves went in the first place). Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he most surely would have done that to the freed black slaves.
Those who rebelled against the North were exercising their right to leave. The North with its larger population was steamrolling the South in Congress. The North passed legislation forcing the South to sell their cotton to the mills up North so they could cash in on the South's agricultural success. The South wanted to sell its cotton to Europe where it could make more money. These and other issues made Southerners feel as if they had lost their voice in government and that the Federal Gov't was tone deaf, ignoring the Constitution and consolidating too much power in itself. Secession was their last resort and the only option they felt they had left to have a voice in their own affairs. Contrary to what you believe, slavery was NOT the main reason the South went to war against the North.
Before you go calling those in the Confederate Army treasonous scum, understand that New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Vermont were also slave states at one time. At the start of the Civil War, four states in the North were still slave states and when Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation, he only freed the slaves in the South. Slavery still existed in the North for the duration of the Civil War and Delaware was the last state to officially get rid of slavery... in 1901!
Lincoln made slavery an issue to get elected. It had fallen out of favor in Europe and the U.S. was following suit. The North was quicker to give up slavery because its economy was not as agrarian and its industry was able to operate without unskilled slave labor. Lincoln wanted to free the slaves, yes, but he also believed that the country would have fewer problems if it simply got rid of them and he had intentions of deporting them to Africa, as well as the Caribbean and South America (where the majority of slaves went in the first place). Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he most surely would have done that to the freed black slaves.
Those who rebelled against the North were exercising their right to leave. The North with its larger population was steamrolling the South in Congress. The North passed legislation forcing the South to sell their cotton to the mills up North so they could cash in on the South's agricultural success. The South wanted to sell its cotton to Europe where it could make more money. These and other issues made Southerners feel as if they had lost their voice in government and that the Federal Gov't was tone deaf, ignoring the Constitution and consolidating too much power in itself. Secession was their last resort and the only option they felt they had left to have a voice in their own affairs. Contrary to what you believe, slavery was NOT the main reason the South went to war against the North.
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SGT Apollo Sharpe
Once again, you’re trying to muddy the water with irrelevant data. Do you know what treason is? Slavery isn’t treason against the nation, so bringing up northern slave states does absolutely nothing for your argument. Attempting to create a whole new nation out of part of a nation that already exists is treason. And yes, I know all about old Abe. Yet, nothing that you’ve said has changed the fact that the confederacy is a treasonous group that LOST & deserve zero commemoration.
And by the way, that’s not whining, those are facts.
And by the way, that’s not whining, those are facts.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad, no we should not dismiss "all supporters of the right who display the confederate battle flag" as racist.
I personally prefer the Don't Tread on Me coiled rattlesnake symbol as my symbol against tyranny of the Federal Government primarily and all government tyranny in principle.
If we haven't learned anything from the transformation of one of the more civilized countries in Europe to became Nazi Germany, we need to remember that a strong centralized government seeking to expand power will go after and marginalize those who are opposed to in incrementally. They we try to get many to agree that one group is worse than the rest, after that group is ostracized they will go after other groups with renewed vigor.
I personally prefer the Don't Tread on Me coiled rattlesnake symbol as my symbol against tyranny of the Federal Government primarily and all government tyranny in principle.
If we haven't learned anything from the transformation of one of the more civilized countries in Europe to became Nazi Germany, we need to remember that a strong centralized government seeking to expand power will go after and marginalize those who are opposed to in incrementally. They we try to get many to agree that one group is worse than the rest, after that group is ostracized they will go after other groups with renewed vigor.
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LTC Stephen F.
Sgt Bob Leonard - Thanks for weighing in two years after the discussion which was posted in the months after I joined RallyPoint.
The petri dish of social Darwinism was alive and well in this nation in the 1920s as well which is when eugenics took off to help stop the burgeoning masses in the cities from reproducing
1. I said more not most civilized countries
2. I have been studying history for over 50 years and prefer primary sources. Germany like Italy was established as a nation in 1871 from city states.
3. In the Great War, the Central Powers including Germany were defeated and the entire county was penalized not just the leaders, military and industry - total warfare.
4. the primary definition of civilized nation is "Having a highly developed society and culture." The language of science and mathematics had been German, much of the great artwork, classical music and the reformation originated in Germany.
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The petri dish of social Darwinism was alive and well in this nation in the 1920s as well which is when eugenics took off to help stop the burgeoning masses in the cities from reproducing
1. I said more not most civilized countries
2. I have been studying history for over 50 years and prefer primary sources. Germany like Italy was established as a nation in 1871 from city states.
3. In the Great War, the Central Powers including Germany were defeated and the entire county was penalized not just the leaders, military and industry - total warfare.
4. the primary definition of civilized nation is "Having a highly developed society and culture." The language of science and mathematics had been German, much of the great artwork, classical music and the reformation originated in Germany.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx Maj Marty Hogan PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Margaret Higgins SSG William Wall MSgt Jason McClish AN Christopher Crayne LTC Bill Koski Sgt Trevor Barrett SPC Tom DeSmet SGT Charles H. Hawes LTC Wayne Brandon SGT (Join to see)
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Sgt Bob Leonard
LTC Stephen F. - Sir, I accept that you have a much broader and deeper foundation on which to base your opinions. Recognizing that, let me ask for your thoughts: If not for the heavy and harsh treatment of Germany (et al) by the victorous Allies, do you think that Hitler would have found a culture/environment as receptive to him and his brand of uber "Aryan Exceptionalism"?
Or do you think a cultural imperative characterized by such as eugenics would have taken hold anyway, ultimately and inexorably leading to the Holocaust, or something similar?
I realize that trying to retroactively forecast(?) the consequences of modifying only one facet of the historical narrative is probably a foolish quest, nonetheless, I ask.
(Personally, from my relatively ignorant perspective, I question that WW2, in any form, would have happened if not for the vindictive treatment of the vanquished by the victors.)
Or do you think a cultural imperative characterized by such as eugenics would have taken hold anyway, ultimately and inexorably leading to the Holocaust, or something similar?
I realize that trying to retroactively forecast(?) the consequences of modifying only one facet of the historical narrative is probably a foolish quest, nonetheless, I ask.
(Personally, from my relatively ignorant perspective, I question that WW2, in any form, would have happened if not for the vindictive treatment of the vanquished by the victors.)
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LTC Stephen F.
Sgt Bob Leonard -
1. ref "If not for the heavy and harsh treatment of Germany (et al) by the victorious Allies, do you think that Hitler would have found a culture/environment as receptive to him and his brand of uber "Aryan Exceptionalism"?"
a. If the Entente allies of the Great War had limited their punishment to the government and military and they did not break up the young German nation; I think the National Socialists would not have been able to take advantage of the "perfect storm."
b. Since Poland took part of the German speaking lands and the German people were laboring to make enough money to purchase a daily meal.
c. The Weimar Republic allowed hyperinflation to pay of the national debt to the Entente allies.
1. ref "If not for the heavy and harsh treatment of Germany (et al) by the victorious Allies, do you think that Hitler would have found a culture/environment as receptive to him and his brand of uber "Aryan Exceptionalism"?"
a. If the Entente allies of the Great War had limited their punishment to the government and military and they did not break up the young German nation; I think the National Socialists would not have been able to take advantage of the "perfect storm."
b. Since Poland took part of the German speaking lands and the German people were laboring to make enough money to purchase a daily meal.
c. The Weimar Republic allowed hyperinflation to pay of the national debt to the Entente allies.
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"After decades of defending the Confederate flag, many conservative lawmakers have publicly and aggressively joined the fight." Why are they changing their stance, the movement to remove the Confederate flag has been around for years. The difference is an event has occurred that is the catalyst to forcing ordinary citizens and politicians to take one position rather than another. We are seeing the shift from political persuasion to political coercion.
Why are we hearing more about the Confederate flag removal than we are hearing about Dylan Roof? Dylan Roof is responsible for the murder of 9 people not the Confederate flag, the weapon, the clothes he wore, the car he drove to the scene...
"After decades of defending the Confederate flag, many conservative lawmakers have publicly and aggressively joined the fight." Why are they changing their stance, the movement to remove the Confederate flag has been around for years. The difference is an event has occurred that is the catalyst to forcing ordinary citizens and politicians to take one position rather than another. We are seeing the shift from political persuasion to political coercion.
Why are we hearing more about the Confederate flag removal than we are hearing about Dylan Roof? Dylan Roof is responsible for the murder of 9 people not the Confederate flag, the weapon, the clothes he wore, the car he drove to the scene...
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I am from the south and proud of it. As for the flag, it have never given it too much thought and I understand it is part of the history or our country (good or bad). My only concern now is what else will the government want to try and take a way from us. The confederte flag could be just the start. The feds need to be very careful about what they try to take away from those of us in the south. Many of us are not the PC type and will only be pushed around for so long.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
States are taking down the flag not the Federal Government, but thanks for playing.
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
Its all another step towards the removal of the American Flag....perpetuated by those in real power who wish to destroy this nation.
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Freedom of speech cannot free one from responsibility for the consequences of their expressions. Whether those expressions are made through words or symbols, they have consequences.
The Confederate Battle Flag, the Stars and Bars, was born as an expression of the fight to preserve slavery. Some may argue that it was not but there is no valid evidence of their assertion. Some may argue that its meaning has morphed and it now represents "Southern Pride", but what is Southern Pride. It seems an extension of the same thing: Pride in the fight to preserve slavery?
We cannot and should not ban individual free expression. If they wish to convey this message, they should be allowed however abhorrent. However, governments are not granted freedom of expression. Displays of the Stars and Bars on public buildings are expressions of all the people in that place and many object to them. Thus, display of the Confederate Battle Flag on public places may be barred.
Sadly, the point that most people miss is that even innocent displays of hateful expressions have consequences. When they display the Stars and Bars, even without any ill intent, they are giving aid and comport and encouragement to those who display it as expressions of their prejudice and hate.
The Confederate Battle Flag, the Stars and Bars, was born as an expression of the fight to preserve slavery. Some may argue that it was not but there is no valid evidence of their assertion. Some may argue that its meaning has morphed and it now represents "Southern Pride", but what is Southern Pride. It seems an extension of the same thing: Pride in the fight to preserve slavery?
We cannot and should not ban individual free expression. If they wish to convey this message, they should be allowed however abhorrent. However, governments are not granted freedom of expression. Displays of the Stars and Bars on public buildings are expressions of all the people in that place and many object to them. Thus, display of the Confederate Battle Flag on public places may be barred.
Sadly, the point that most people miss is that even innocent displays of hateful expressions have consequences. When they display the Stars and Bars, even without any ill intent, they are giving aid and comport and encouragement to those who display it as expressions of their prejudice and hate.
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SFC Kenneth Hunnell
SN Earl Robinson - The lie is, people from the south like to say the CBF is about heritage. For some maybe, not all.
Please tell me why that same flag is flown up North. I for one don't.
That war ended 152yrs. Ago
When will it end in your mind
I never look at someone by their skin.
As, far as that flag goes, it's a piece of cloth
Please tell me why that same flag is flown up North. I for one don't.
That war ended 152yrs. Ago
When will it end in your mind
I never look at someone by their skin.
As, far as that flag goes, it's a piece of cloth
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CPT Jack Durish
SFC Kenneth Hunnell - It was enough that the South believed that Lincoln was elected to free the slaves. That's why mobs waited in Baltimore to lynch him before he could reach the Capitol. That's why they fired on Fort Sumter. That's why they fought to secede from the Union. The sad thing is that they also knew that slavery was going to end regardless. It was no longer economically advantageous. Steam power and the cotton gin were enough of a warning that keeping humans in bondage also bound the owner to feed, house, and clothe them. No matter how poorly, slaves were becoming too expensive and they were only keeping them out of habit. Still, they were fighting for their way of life, a way that included slavery.
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SSG Michael Eastes
CPT Jack Durish- the "stars and bars" is not the battle flag, but the first national flag of the Confederacy. It had a blue field with stars, like the US flag, and a red, white, and red bar instead of the stripes. The battle flag is also known as the Beauregard flag or the St. Andrew's Cross flag, and was meant to be square. The rectangular one that is mass produced now was actually the naval ensign. On those rare days when I feel like showing a Confederate flag, I fly a Van Dorn or Missouri State Guard pattern flag, and Yankees like you don't even know what you're looking at. BTW, I had ancestors from both of my parents families fight under those flags. If they mean slavery to you, they mean defense of home and family from invaders, to me.
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Most of the people supporting the flag aren't racist. They are however prioritizing their revised version of historical events over the real psychological and emotional pain they are causing millions of Americans. The idea that the CSA seceded because of states rights is absurd unless you consider it a right to enslave and own your neighbor. The civil war was started because the south feared an end to slavery which was the foundation of their economy.
The flag we now commonly know as the Confederate flag wasn't even a popular symbol for decades after the civil war. Its popularity increased due to its adoption as a symbol of hate by the KKK and its use to promote segregation by the Dixiecrats throughout the south in the 40s and 50. The claim that the true meaning of the flag was stolen by racists and that it stands for "southern pride" doesn't conform with historical events. The flag is a symbol of a racially divided south that wanted to maintain the status quo.
The flag we now commonly know as the Confederate flag wasn't even a popular symbol for decades after the civil war. Its popularity increased due to its adoption as a symbol of hate by the KKK and its use to promote segregation by the Dixiecrats throughout the south in the 40s and 50. The claim that the true meaning of the flag was stolen by racists and that it stands for "southern pride" doesn't conform with historical events. The flag is a symbol of a racially divided south that wanted to maintain the status quo.
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LTC George Shell
All I'm saying...read "The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government" (1881) by Jefferson Davis. BLUF, many Americans do not know or understand the build-up and what actually happpend. Long read, but worth the time.
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If knowing the history that "flag" represents they still choose to associate with it, then yes. The "heritage not hate" mantra does not stand up to historical fact-checking. To praise that "flag" is to praise an instrument of white supremacy.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical and moral truth..."
-"Vice President" Alexander Stephens of the Confederate States
So knowing the "heritage" it represents why would anyone who isn't racist or confused support that rag? And we haven't even touched on the fact that they are essentially celebrating people who by definition were traitors to the United States.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical and moral truth..."
-"Vice President" Alexander Stephens of the Confederate States
So knowing the "heritage" it represents why would anyone who isn't racist or confused support that rag? And we haven't even touched on the fact that they are essentially celebrating people who by definition were traitors to the United States.
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SSG Daniel Deiler
Ahhhh yes, but many, myself included believe that the Confederate flag and what it means has changed over the course of time to stand for family values, honor, standing up for what one believes in, especially in the face of a tyrannical out of control federal government.
While it was founded on the abhorrent and despicable belief that the white man is superior to a colored man, things evolve, people evolve, ideologies evolve.
Additionally to give an object the kind of power that many opponents have assigned to the confederate flag is strange to me. Just about a week ago our President used the "N" word but yet there was very little said due to the fact, as some believe, it was used properly and within context. I'm sorry but that is a word that should never be uttered for any reason by anybody. However, I have to remind myself it is only a word. And I REFUSE to give a word...an object, anything inanimate that kind of power over my psyche, emotions or actions.
While it was founded on the abhorrent and despicable belief that the white man is superior to a colored man, things evolve, people evolve, ideologies evolve.
Additionally to give an object the kind of power that many opponents have assigned to the confederate flag is strange to me. Just about a week ago our President used the "N" word but yet there was very little said due to the fact, as some believe, it was used properly and within context. I'm sorry but that is a word that should never be uttered for any reason by anybody. However, I have to remind myself it is only a word. And I REFUSE to give a word...an object, anything inanimate that kind of power over my psyche, emotions or actions.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
SSG Daniel Deiler - i found the feigned outrage over the President's use of 'nigger' to be beyond hypocritical. Those same folks who were "outraged" remained silent thoughout the thousands of times he has been called that word. To your point about the Confederate cloth, you are right people do evolve and ideologies do change. But it is the strangest of anomalies though, that almost every racist displays that flag in their cause. Did you know that because the Nazi symbol has been banned in Europe most skinheads and racists there have adopted the Confederate flag? So it is clear even across oceans what that flag represents. But I'm done with this attempt to present the point of view of most people who find it offenseive. Those who sympathize with what it stands for are free to fly it, those who have convinced themselves that it stands for something else so they can fly it too are welcomed to it. I just wn't associate with any of them in real life.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
Sgt Richard Buckner - I see now the error of my ways. Unfounded claims of the first slave owner being a black man justifies the fundamental ideology of the Confederacy.
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Many of us who grew up in the South still see the flag as a symbol of Southern culture which included things like Southern manners, hospitality and grace... that said, it's become impossible to ignore the fact that the flag has been appropriated by racists.
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SCPO (Join to see) - I find hatred and bigotry against people who happen to be LGBT disgusting. The rainbow flag is a good symbol for a group of people that celebrate so many different types of diversity.
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Your navite is laughable. The LGBTQXYZ society is one of the most non-inclusive and divisive groups in America today.
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SCPO (Join to see) - Your just spouting hate and bigotry at this point, I've known the exact opposite to be true even though I am a straight white male.
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SPC David Willis
SCPO (Join to see) - Least inclusive groups? Oh please go on... Id love to hear how a group of people who believe in equal rights to love who they choose is less inclusive than groups who don't allow people of color to join and think the races should stick to their own.
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Whatever. Call me a racist if you want, ,but you are 100% wrong about me. IF you strip this part of history from our nation where will it end? Take away people's heritage only because real racist bigots have hijacked it. Well, we will need to do the same with a lot of things when the symbols are used by hate groups and unlawful groups.
-The Black Panther Party uses the African Continent (in green) as their symbol. We will need to get rid of it.
- The MS13 Gang uses so many symbols to identify themselves. We will need to ban all of them to include the letters and numbers in their name.
-What about the Bloods and Crips? The colors Red and Blue will need to be banned.
WHEN WILL IT END?
-The Black Panther Party uses the African Continent (in green) as their symbol. We will need to get rid of it.
- The MS13 Gang uses so many symbols to identify themselves. We will need to ban all of them to include the letters and numbers in their name.
-What about the Bloods and Crips? The colors Red and Blue will need to be banned.
WHEN WILL IT END?
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MSG Hankins, You are my brother. You always will be. Regardless of what either of us "look like" or even if we agree on anything. I still stand with you when you need me. However, I ask of the same from you.
I think it is time we put an end to labels and see each other as humans. I am no better than anyone and they are no better than me. The Constitution states it plain and simple. "All Men Are Created Equal..." This was hammered into me growing up in Southern Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, and Western Kentucky.
I had friends in Tennessee, Black families that flew the Confederate Battle Flag in their Yards. Not because they hated themselves, but because they saw the American Civil War as a Necessity to prove States rights.
I think it is time we put an end to labels and see each other as humans. I am no better than anyone and they are no better than me. The Constitution states it plain and simple. "All Men Are Created Equal..." This was hammered into me growing up in Southern Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, and Western Kentucky.
I had friends in Tennessee, Black families that flew the Confederate Battle Flag in their Yards. Not because they hated themselves, but because they saw the American Civil War as a Necessity to prove States rights.
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I don't see it as striping our history, it's still our history and it still has a place in museums or the collections of history buffs. That said, I do not believe it has a valid place being flown by the state government that rebelled against our nation.
I believe retailers are simply responding to the market, and that there will still be plenty of places a person can go to get a confederate flag in they want one.
I believe retailers are simply responding to the market, and that there will still be plenty of places a person can go to get a confederate flag in they want one.
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SN Earl Robinson
MSgt when was the last time you saw a black panther flag? I'm black and old enough to remember the black panthers and until you mentioned it I didn't know they had a flag. Furthermore did the black panthers try to have a state seceded from the union? Were the black panther responsible for starting a war the took 1,264,000 American lives? Did black panthers wave that flag while lynching white Americans? Face it the Confederate Battle Flag represents oppression, hatred, bigotry and treason and that is the only heritage it represents.
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The Confederate flag is just a distraction ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/26/the-confederate-flag-is-just-a-distraction/?hpid=z11
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/26/the-confederate-flag-is-just-a-distraction/?hpid=z11
The Confederate flag is just a distraction
Don't let politicians congratulate themselves for symbolic changes after the murders in Charleston.
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I've asked this among friends. What is this a smoke screen for? What is it that is being voted on or discussed that we're ignorant of or being directed away from?
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SFC Kenneth Hunnell
It is a shame people are killed because of the tone of their skin.
One question, what would have been the story line be if the same murders, same situation, same individual happened in say Philadelphia Pa. Would they be saying it is southern motivated or just a racist committing the crime.
The fact that it happened in South Carolina started or continue to push for the removal of an item that just happened to be a flag.
History is just that, a war was fought and both the North and South won by reuniting to make us the Greatest Country on earth.
Everyone speaks of Racism as if it is a local thing, it is not an local thing or even a government thing. It is both a World wide thing and an individual thing.
If people learned to look beyond what is in their eyes and learn to listen to each other, we can see that we are the same with a different shade of skin.
We can learn a lot from each other by listening.
Learn from what Lincoln Said, of course I am paraphrasing, " Do more listening than talking". You will learn alot
One question, what would have been the story line be if the same murders, same situation, same individual happened in say Philadelphia Pa. Would they be saying it is southern motivated or just a racist committing the crime.
The fact that it happened in South Carolina started or continue to push for the removal of an item that just happened to be a flag.
History is just that, a war was fought and both the North and South won by reuniting to make us the Greatest Country on earth.
Everyone speaks of Racism as if it is a local thing, it is not an local thing or even a government thing. It is both a World wide thing and an individual thing.
If people learned to look beyond what is in their eyes and learn to listen to each other, we can see that we are the same with a different shade of skin.
We can learn a lot from each other by listening.
Learn from what Lincoln Said, of course I am paraphrasing, " Do more listening than talking". You will learn alot
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CPT (Join to see) - Anything done in or near Washington can be construed as a smoke screen. Perhaps to take away attention from the nutcase in Korea with a nuke button in his hand?
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