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I try to give back to the people of this nation as I am able. I used to donate blood regularly; but because I was stationed in Germany in the early 1980's when some beef in military mess halls came from cows with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] I can no longer donate blood because we have become infected with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease." I learned recently that people with HIV can now donate blood - per conversation with Red Cross POC, efforts were funded to come up with a way that HIV positive people can donate blood. That saddened me and made me mad. Bovine spongiform can only be tested through autopsy right now. Many of those of us who served in Europe during the latter part of the cold war have not been able to donate blood. I hope that NIH will make in a priority and obtain funding to develop ways to test for bovine spongiform in people through a blood test.
[Note: I updated the question from "veterans" to "Veterans and service members" on June 6, 2015 - 71st anniversary of D Day - Operation Overlord]

[update May 18, 2018] As of 2017, worldwide 230 people, roughly 180 in the UK have been infected with vCJD and 4 people in the USA have been infected.

Mad Cow and VCJD are nervous system diseases which are based on diseased prions [not the car]. Diseased prions binds to proteins and converts them to prions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxojz6grwcU

Thanks to 1SG (Join to see) for alerting me that "there is progress in the development of methods to detect misfolded proteins in the bloodstream" I did research and found the following at an NIH site.
As this article informs us there has been progress in control groups testing of "developed blood tests to detect prion." The article states that there are plans to "validate their methods using larger samples sizes."
Hopefully this process will be successful to detect whether or not we have been infected by Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease."


"Prion diseases are a group of rare, fatal brain diseases that affect animals and humans. They are caused by normally harmless proteins that become abnormal and form clumps in the brain. One form, called variant CJD (vCJD), is associated with eating meat from cattle infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy, commonly known as “mad cow” disease.

People may have vCJD for years before symptoms—such as depression, hallucinations, moving difficulties, and dementia—appear. These “silent” carriers have small amounts of prions in their bloodstreams and can transmit the disease to others via blood transfusions. The only current method to diagnose vCJD is to perform a biopsy or a postmortem analysis of brain tissue. Thus, a noninvasive test to detect prions in blood is a medical priority.

Two research groups recently developed blood tests to detect prions. The results appeared in a pair of papers published on December 21, 2016, in Science Translational Medicine. One of the groups, led by Dr. Claudio Soto of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), and National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).

Prions are scarce in the bloodstream and difficult to measure. Both teams developed methods to amplify the prions in blood samples using a technique called protein misfolding cyclic amplification (PMCA). PMCA relies on the characteristic nature of prions to cause certain healthy proteins to clump abnormally and convert into prions.

Soto’s group first combined healthy proteins with known concentrations of infectious vCJD prions. They intermittently agitated these mixtures with sound waves. The agitation helped break the prions into smaller chunks. This increased the number of prions that could then convert healthy proteins into prions. Using this method, the scientists were able to detect more than a billion-fold dilution of prions using an anti-prion antibody.

The scientists next tested whether the technique could be used to detect prions in blood samples from 14 people with vCJD and 153 controls. The controls included healthy people as well as people with different neurological or neurodegenerative disorders, including sporadic CJD, the most common form of CJD. The assay flagged all the vCJD samples correctly.

In the second paper, a French research group described a similar approach testing a blinded panel of blood samples. That team identified 18 vCJD patients in a group of 256 samples.

“Our findings, which need to be confirmed in further studies, suggest that our method of detection could be useful for the noninvasive diagnosis of this disease in pre-symptomatic individuals,” Soto says. Early diagnosis would allow potential therapies to be tested before substantial brain damage occurred. This technique would also allow blood contaminated with prions to be detected and removed from the blood supply.

Both teams are now working to validate their methods using larger samples sizes.
―by Anita Ramanathan
nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-method-accurately-detects-prions-blood



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Many veterans who have deployed are ineligible to donate due to effects of food potentially consumed while deployed. When I worked for the Army Blood Donor Program, most of my donations came from Basic Trainees since most of them had not traveled abroad.
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There was an end date to the Mad Cow moratorium, but I believe there was information that the period where people become symptomatic was longer than originally believed.
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LTC (Join to see), per information from the Red Cross, the POC told me there is no end date for my restriction to donate blood based on my potential exposure to Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE). She informed me that HIV had a higher priority for research so "they" developed a screening method for HIV and have been allowing HIV positive people to donate blood since that point.
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There "was" an end date. This has changed due to people become symptomatic after the period previously believed.
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LTC Stephen F. - Hell another thing I hadn't thought about Salmonella, I've had that Several Times. You think My Blood would be Great Treatment for that. Damn It!
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I can't. Something about one of the countries I visited. I don't even remember which one.
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CPO Joseph Grant, I hope that NIH and related agencies will put serious effort to develop blood tests to allow more of us to donate blood.
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CPO Joseph Grant Germany or England, I'll Bet.
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How many other veterans and service members are not permitted to donate blood? Why?
FYI my friends - it appears the rules for donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
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Still can't donate, spent 4 years in the UK, 1988-1992.
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LTC Stephen F.
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How many other veterans and service members are not permitted to donate blood? Why?

FYI my friends - it appears the rules for donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
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For 30 years I have not been able to donate blood due to my 6 years (2 tours) served in Germany due to fear of Mad Cow Disease blood contamination. I just recently heard that policy has been reversed, however, I have not tried to give blood since I heard that.
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Thank you my friend and USMAPS 1976 and USMA 1980 classmate MAJ Randall Von Rosenberg for responding and making us aware that you also have not been able to donate blood since being stationed in Germany for two tours due to the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] outbreak and the apparent risk of becoming infected with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD).
It is news to me that the policy may have been reversed. I just checked and learned "In 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) lifted a longstanding ban that prevented some 4.4 million Veterans, service members and civilians stationed in certain parts of Europe between 1980 and 1996 from donating blood. The ban was meant to prevent transmission of a deadly brain disease commonly known as “mad cow disease.”

It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more]

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, through December 31, 2001, in France or Ireland.

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MAJ Randall Von Rosenberg As of August it hadn't been reversed. I stop at a Bloodmobile a couple times a year if one is where I happen to be and ask about it.
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How many other veterans and service members are not permitted to donate blood? Why?

FYI my friends - it appears the rules for donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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I can't because I was stationed in Turkey 1980 - 81. Apparently it has something to do with a Mad Cow Disease outbreak during that period. Really strange because I was able to donate until the early 2000s then their rules changed and suddenly I had tainted blood.
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Thank you my fellow forbidden from donating blood friend Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen for responding and making us aware that you have not been able to donate blood since the early 2000s based on the fact that you were stationed in Turkey 1980 - 1981 allegedly because of the MAD Cow [bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE). Your experience mirrors mine, in that we both were able to donate blood after we returned from Europe until the rules changed.

HOWEVER Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, through December 31, 2001, in France or Ireland.
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They won’t let dependents donate either if they spent at least 6 months in country.
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Thank you, for responding SSG Russell Bothwell and reminding those who don't know that dependents living in affected countries during the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] "epidemic" are also restricted from donating blood.
I am hopeful that in your lifetime there will e significant progress in the capability to detect the Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD) prions to determine if we are indeed infected by vCJD or confirm we are not.

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LTC Stephen F.
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FYI my friend SSG Russell Bothwell it appears the rules fro donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, through December 31, 2001, in France or Ireland.
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I'm in the same boat, sir. I was born in Poland and lived there for the first 20 years of my life before moving to US and enlisting, which disqualifies me from donating blood. The funny thing is that (as far as I can tell) there were no reported cases of mad cow disease in Poland but I still can't donate blood in US, even though US did have some cases of the disease. So, theoretically, there is a bigger chance that I get CJD from a transfusion than I give it to someone, yet I'm still not allowed to donate.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you, for responding SSG (Join to see) and sharing the sad news that you also cannot donate blood because you grew up in Poland during the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) [Mad Cow] epidemic.
I am hopeful that in your lifetime there will e significant progress in the capability to detect the Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD) prions to determine if we are indeed infected by vCJD or confirm we are not.

Hopefully in the next decade there will be breakthroughs in the process to determine whether or not we have vCJD wiythout an autopsy.

"Thanks to SFC William Squires for alerting me that "there is progress in the development of methods to detect misfolded proteins in the bloodstream" I did research and found the following at an NIH site.
As this article informs us there has been progress in control groups testing of "developed blood tests to detect prion." The article states that there are plans to "validate their methods using larger samples sizes."
Hopefully this process will be successful to detect whether or not we have been infected by Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD); "Mad Cow Disease."

"Prion diseases are a group of rare, fatal brain diseases that affect animals and humans. They are caused by normally harmless proteins that become abnormal and form clumps in the brain. One form, called variant CJD (vCJD), is associated with eating meat from cattle infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy, commonly known as “mad cow” disease.

People may have vCJD for years before symptoms—such as depression, hallucinations, moving difficulties, and dementia—appear. These “silent” carriers have small amounts of prions in their bloodstreams and can transmit the disease to others via blood transfusions. The only current method to diagnose vCJD is to perform a biopsy or a postmortem analysis of brain tissue. Thus, a noninvasive test to detect prions in blood is a medical priority.

Two research groups recently developed blood tests to detect prions. The results appeared in a pair of papers published on December 21, 2016, in Science Translational Medicine. One of the groups, led by Dr. Claudio Soto of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), and National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).

Prions are scarce in the bloodstream and difficult to measure. Both teams developed methods to amplify the prions in blood samples using a technique called protein misfolding cyclic amplification (PMCA). PMCA relies on the characteristic nature of prions to cause certain healthy proteins to clump abnormally and convert into prions.

Soto’s group first combined healthy proteins with known concentrations of infectious vCJD prions. They intermittently agitated these mixtures with sound waves. The agitation helped break the prions into smaller chunks. This increased the number of prions that could then convert healthy proteins into prions. Using this method, the scientists were able to detect more than a billion-fold dilution of prions using an anti-prion antibody.

The scientists next tested whether the technique could be used to detect prions in blood samples from 14 people with vCJD and 153 controls. The controls included healthy people as well as people with different neurological or neurodegenerative disorders, including sporadic CJD, the most common form of CJD. The assay flagged all the vCJD samples correctly.

In the second paper, a French research group described a similar approach testing a blinded panel of blood samples. That team identified 18 vCJD patients in a group of 256 samples.

“Our findings, which need to be confirmed in further studies, suggest that our method of detection could be useful for the noninvasive diagnosis of this disease in pre-symptomatic individuals,” Soto says. Early diagnosis would allow potential therapies to be tested before substantial brain damage occurred. This technique would also allow blood contaminated with prions to be detected and removed from the blood supply.

Both teams are now working to validate their methods using larger samples sizes.
―by Anita Ramanathan
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-method-accurately-detects-prions-blood

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FYI my friend SSG (Join to see) it appears the rules for donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, through December 31, 2001, in France or Ireland.
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I was stationed in Germany in the early 80s, never heard a word about mad cow's disease in beef served in chow halls. I was stationed on a radar site controllinb the central flight path corridor to Berlin. Of course this was from 1980 to 1982. AFN never put out any news about this during this time.
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Thank you for responding SSgt Daniel d'Errico. Your memory is the same as mine from that tie period. I head about Mad Cow in England but never heard about any information that British beef shipped to US bases in Europe may have been infected.
It wasn't until I tried to donate blood in the 1990's that I learned about the possibility of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).
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FYI my friend SSgt Daniel d'Errico it appears the rules for donating blood have changed. Only those living or being stationed in the British Isles, of France or Ireland for 5 or more years are restricted based on living or being stationed in Europe.

Based on the American Red Cross from June 30, 2021
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical/eligibility-reference-material.html
It seems that being stationed or being a dependent in Germany, Turkey and other duty stations in Europe [outside of the Great Britain, Ireland and France [for 5 years or more] has been lifted from the prohibition for donating blood lists.

At this time, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in any country in the United Kingdom (UK),
Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any of the countries listed below:
France Ireland Channel Islands England Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Northern Ireland Scotland Wales
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, through December 31, 2001, in France or Ireland.
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Sgt Ron Harris
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I've never been able to give blood, even though I'm A-, a rare strain. I had polio, both legs and rt. arm, as a kid.
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Thanks you for responding Sgt Ron Harris and making us aware that childhood poliovirus precludes you from donating blood. I expect you contracted polio before the introduction of the trivalent inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and trivalent oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) in 1963. I expect since you served in the USAF that you became symptom free. I hope that you never have a flare up of polio.

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Yes sir, that is correct. In July,1950, I got ill with a high fever. On the 4th of July, I sat on our front porch wrapped in Army blankets, with 104 temp, watching fireworks. The Dr. thought I was coming down with measles. The next AM, I had polio...never got the measles. I was 4 yrs. old.
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We were told after we returned from the 'Storm, that we couldn't donate blood any more.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thank you for responding SGM Ronald Cheatom and letting us know that after you redeployed from Operation Desert Storm you were told by the Red Cross [I expect] that you could not donate any more blood [probably based on Gulf War Syndrome].
Hopefully if you have no symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome at this point, I would expect you would be cleared to donate blood again.

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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst
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I’m not s Desert Storm Vet... I had a Friend that was and she had been in Kuwait attached to a medical unit that was there.. Well .. guys and women get together snd that’s all that needs to be said.. .. She told me later that I prob’ly shouldn’t give blood either and that was all.. She’d been in a med connected career field and had possible contact with blood from guys because of blood draws..(it happens, might be a splash or a spill). She was in a lab with it consistently.. She'd gone there from Germany.. She’d been asigned to Landstuhl 5 months before going to Kuwait.. We were members together at my former V.F.W. Post at Westland Post;.#3323.. we had recruited some of her fellow Desert Storm Vets into our Post.. They had gone as expeditionary to Kuwait so it was short but they were still eligible for membership.. Some of my V.F.W.
Comrades thought they hadn’t been there long enough.. it wasn’t that long, that’s why they were expeditionary.. I had checked with Department anyway.. to be on ssfe side.. Thdy helped get me over the 100% but some cronies of the Sr. Vice that contested them helped steal 3 that took my 100%z.. Si commented that if you contested them... why did you take them to boost your count ? He said he waited for me to get the confirm they were eligible recruits... I commented at a meeting that I’m not to disparage comrades but in this instance you disparage yourself, Comrade_________... i’ be not much to say to or about you.. it’s been shown by the example that’s been shown here.. so enjoy the 3 recruits that will start your count for the year.. I didn’t leave, I was Cmdr. We still had 45 minutes left...(for the 5 minutes I spoke, I had the JR. Vice take the gavel.. I prob’ly sbouldn’t say what went on. But it’s been so long.. I didn’t reveal any names.. just the sitrep.. Did we lose any members ? No... we had several more that showed in my support. We had 3 weeks to go...
5 came in but somehow their apps
Were held up.. and the Sr. Vice picked them up. For his count. I’m just happy he got a good start.. it was a good start for the program..
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